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Post by fredgarvinmp on May 20, 2015 10:13:14 GMT -8
"The task force proposal includes selling 75 acres of land in the Qualcomm Stadium lot for $225 million. It’s a crucial part of meeting the $1.1 billion stadium price tag." However, I may be wrong, since SDSU is a state entity they would not have an issue with the zoning of the land and would be able to do with it what they want if they were to purchase the property. That could include building a stadium (independently or jointly or with an MLS team) or classrooms and housing/retail. State property doesn't generate property and sales taxes. Campus expansion is not a good idea. Along with the negative impact on college rankings, this IS the 21st century and there IS something called the Internet, which is becoming more and more useful by the day. The future belongs to the virtual classroom. While traditional colleges will still be around for the next several decades, I agree that the future lies with online with education. I have taken online courses and I would do it no other way now. Schools will still exist virtually, but the vast campuses and infustructure needed will begin a decline in about a decade. And don't think K-12 won't be affected. I have a couple of friends that have already expressed an interest in going online for thier kids if the right program becomes available as they don't feel thier local schools offer the quality in teachers they are looking for. |
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Post by HighNTight on May 20, 2015 10:28:22 GMT -8
State property doesn't generate property and sales taxes. Campus expansion is not a good idea. Along with the negative impact on college rankings, this IS the 21st century and there IS something called the Internet, which is becoming more and more useful by the day. The future belongs to the virtual classroom. While traditional colleges will still be around for the next several decades, I agree that the future lies with online with education. I have taken online courses and I would do it no other way now. Schools will still exist virtually, but the vast campuses and infustructure needed will begin a decline in about a decade. And don't think K-12 won't be affected. I have a couple of friends that have already expressed an interest in going online for thier kids if the right program becomes available as they don't feel thier local schools offer the quality in teachers they are looking for. There will always be a place for the physical campus ... research labs, physical interaction and the tools required for applied sciences will still require a campus -- not to mention the social interactions will be as much a part of the college experience in the future as it is now. |
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Post by fredgarvinmp on May 20, 2015 10:44:30 GMT -8
While traditional colleges will still be around for the next several decades, I agree that the future lies with online with education. I have taken online courses and I would do it no other way now. Schools will still exist virtually, but the vast campuses and infustructure needed will begin a decline in about a decade. And don't think K-12 won't be affected. I have a couple of friends that have already expressed an interest in going online for thier kids if the right program becomes available as they don't feel thier local schools offer the quality in teachers they are looking for. There will always be a place for the physical campus ... research labs, physical interaction and the tools required for applied sciences will still require a campus -- not to mention the social interactions will be as much a part of the college experience in the future as it is now. I agree H&T, just saying that the expansive campuses will start to shrink at some point but most will not go away entirely (I can see many JC’s and smaller schools choosing to go online only). I like the possibilities though, as a 40+ year old professional, I love the fact that I can take almost any type of educational course I want and not have to drive to a campus after a hard day at work for a 6-9pm class 3-4 days a week then get home at 10pm to then study. Instead, I can drive home, put some sweats on, have some dinner, see the family, spend my 3 hours learning and still be able to put an hour of study in by 10pm. Love it. |
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Post by AztecBill on May 20, 2015 11:38:18 GMT -8
Games against Wyomong just aren't gonna draw. No matter if you build Jerry's World. Or Utah St. Or UNM. Or UNLV. Or San Jose St. All those teams sold out at Viejas Arena. In fact the Aztecs sell out basketball against Div III teams on Tuesday afternoon. It would be ideal to have better opponents but a new stadium would be a huge upgrade to home games that will draw extra fans. The current fan experience at the "Q" is terrible. |
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Post by AccessBowlTime on May 20, 2015 14:03:44 GMT -8
"I’m reminded of the scene at the start of “The Graduate”, where the father of one of Dustin Hoffman’s friends leans over and whispers 'Plastics'."
I'm reminded of the same. Because the only way this plan is going to work financially is if rather than iron and concrete, they build the thing with plastics.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 15:32:26 GMT -8
While traditional colleges will still be around for the next several decades, I agree that the future lies with online with education. I have taken online courses and I would do it no other way now. Schools will still exist virtually, but the vast campuses and infustructure needed will begin a decline in about a decade. And don't think K-12 won't be affected. I have a couple of friends that have already expressed an interest in going online for thier kids if the right program becomes available as they don't feel thier local schools offer the quality in teachers they are looking for. There will always be a place for the physical campus ... research labs, physical interaction and the tools required for applied sciences will still require a campus -- not to mention the social interactions will be as much a part of the college experience in the future as it is now. I've got news for you; the physical "tools" can and will be controlled remotely. additionally most things can and will also be virtualized for educational as well as practical purposes. But I agree, there will always be a campus as an expensive option for some. Another peek into the future is the diminution of the traditional college degree in favor of skills certification. It's coming. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 16:02:14 GMT -8
There will always be a place for the physical campus ... research labs, physical interaction and the tools required for applied sciences will still require a campus -- not to mention the social interactions will be as much a part of the college experience in the future as it is now. I've got news for you; the physical "tools" can and will be controlled remotely. additionally most things can and will also be virtualized for educational as well as practical purposes. But I agree, there will always be a campus as an expensive option for some. Another peek into the future is the diminution of the traditional college degree in favor of skills certification. It's coming. Really a return to the way things were...and likely should've stayed. I def think Lib Arts will be remote unless you are a FA grad student or something like that. STEM programs will remain largely in person, but I'm sure technology will eventually even allow them to learn at a distance. |
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Post by aztecbolt on May 20, 2015 18:16:12 GMT -8
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on May 20, 2015 19:26:51 GMT -8
I've got news for you; the physical "tools" can and will be controlled remotely. additionally most things can and will also be virtualized for educational as well as practical purposes. But I agree, there will always be a campus as an expensive option for some. Another peek into the future is the diminution of the traditional college degree in favor of skills certification. It's coming. Really a return to the way things were...and likely should've stayed. I def think Lib Arts will be remote unless you are a FA grad student or something like that. STEM programs will remain largely in person, but I'm sure technology will eventually even allow them to learn at a distance. The key to a liberal arts degrees is as much about learning people, cultures, and gaining a universal understanding. I think true valuable liberal arts degrees are share they learn as much from each other than what is in a book. In non technical management positions, I value young leaders with liberal arts backgrounds, not those checking boxes and getting on line degrees. I'm not devaluing those with on line degrees, I'm just saying those with universal educations bring great people skills into leader development programs. |
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Post by AzTex on May 22, 2015 9:16:05 GMT -8
In researching PSL it seems they give the license holder the rights to that seat for all events at the venue. That would mean some Charger fan could decide to take over my very desirable club level Aztec season tickets. That takes away a lot of the benefits of maintaining season seats. That does not sound correct to me. Let me see if I understand what you are saying. Are you suggesting that Chargers season ticket holders, presumably all of whom will have paid for PSLs, would be able to attend Aztec home games without paying an extra cent? How many season ticket holders do the Chargers have? I tried to find that figure on the Internet; the most recent item on that came from 2013. at which time the UT stated that the Chargers had 46,000 season ticket holders (down from 62,000 in 2006). Okay, does what you say mean that the Aztecs would be unable to sell season tickets for the 46,000 seats belonging to Charger season ticket holders? That simply cannot be corrrect! AzWm In my earlier response I missed the part in bold above. No, the Charger season ticket holders wouldn't be able to attend the Aztec games free. They would have to buy tickets if they wanted to go. But, they might have the right of first refusal on those seats. Here is a short quote from todays Union Tribune article by Tom Krasovic. "A PSL is a one-time fee and provides first dibs on other stadium events." LINKI still haven't read anything about what the terms of the Chargers PSL license.EDIT: I just ran across an article in the Union Tribune from March 6th by Roger Showley where he says: "He said as much as $200 million could be generated from PSLs if the Chargers auctioned off seats, starting at $1,000 each, and gave buyers priority rights to tickets at other stadium events." LINK See bottom of page 2. |
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