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Post by fisherville on May 7, 2015 12:17:50 GMT -8
Will be interesting to see if he ends up at Cal
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Post by fisherville on May 7, 2015 12:22:03 GMT -8
Why was this moved to recruiting? Or did I post it here? It effects SDSU if he ends up at CAL
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Post by laaztec on May 7, 2015 12:37:03 GMT -8
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Post by standiego on May 7, 2015 12:39:08 GMT -8
Believe his mentor played for Purdue , so is suggesting he go there . (per ESPNU ) He is from Indiana . Wants to play PF , CAL added Rabb PF , Brown SF , so doubtful for CAL . Purdue has 2 7ft centers so he can play PF.
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Post by fisherville on May 7, 2015 12:46:16 GMT -8
He'd start next to rabb at cal, scout makes it sound it will be either purdue or cal.
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Post by survalli on May 7, 2015 12:57:36 GMT -8
he is going to Cal. going to be really really interesting.
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Post by fisherville on May 7, 2015 12:59:37 GMT -8
it sounds like most expect him at purdue though
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on May 7, 2015 13:24:04 GMT -8
my money is on Cal
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Post by Gundo on May 7, 2015 13:30:46 GMT -8
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Post by standiego on May 7, 2015 13:46:54 GMT -8
He is one of the top HS players from Indiana this year . Looking for a school where he can play PF Not Center . Seems Purdue could be a fit , be a bit closer for the family to watch him play ,rather then across the country CAL.. Would guess that could be why he did not pick CAL to start with . CAL adding two forwards would be taking a lot of the PT there ,also with the guys CAL also has coming back . At Purdue could become the guy to get them into the mix and maybe quickly into the NBA .
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Post by fisherville on May 7, 2015 13:58:56 GMT -8
The position he plays will have absolutely 0 effect on where he ends up.
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Post by sdcoug on May 7, 2015 15:13:14 GMT -8
The position he plays will have absolutely 0 effect on where he ends up. This! They are PLAYERS - the post has evolved. You don't need to have 1 back to the basket guy & 1 face up 4 in today's world.
Didn't he & Rabb both visit Cal at the same time? Aren't they friends? And at one point were strongly considered going to Cal together? Nothing's changed - they can EASILY play together.
Many are actually thinking Rabb plays the 5 at Cal, and they had Brown penciled in to play the 4 in a 4-guard offense.
If Swanigan goes to Cal what will be interesting is which Vet sits? All 3 perimeter players return, so will Brown be forced off the bench (initially), Bird (another 4-star stud) or does Mathews (their most efficient offensive player last year & shot 43%) go to the bench? Or does Wallace, their PG, bwho many think will be a NBA player?
They would also have a TON of options inside now, with Rabb, him, a raw but extremely talented Okoroh, and what about Rooks?
If this all happens it wouldn't surprise me to see Rooks transfer (home to USD?), as well as Singer, who started for them last year.
And they instantly would fall into the Elite 8 category...
BTW, didn't he JUST commit to MSU? Thought Smith was quick at decommitting...
PS. Think Conzo gets an off-season raise?
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on May 7, 2015 15:38:27 GMT -8
He is one of the top HS players from Indiana this year . Looking for a school where he can play PF Not Center . Seems Purdue could be a fit , be a bit closer for the family to watch him play ,rather then across the country CAL.. Would guess that could be why he did not pick CAL to start with . CAL adding two forwards would be taking a lot of the PT there ,also with the guys CAL also has coming back . At Purdue could become the guy to get them into the mix and maybe quickly into the NBA . He can play Fwd, I am not sure the issue here. The world isn't locked in to 1-5 anymore. I've seen sets with five 4s, one G and four 4's, etc. Basketball has evolved. |
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Post by standiego on May 7, 2015 17:06:32 GMT -8
IMO HS recruits ,especially the top 20 recruits do want to know from the college coaches how they will be used in the offense .Most of the top recruits prefer to play the position in college that they will be playing in the NBA. Many also see themselves as one and done. Yes there are a variety of offenses , many do have the "5" player with their back to the basket , the "4" usually faces the basket. The 5 also usually guards the other teams 5 , in a man to man D . Yes every offense is different, according to the coaches scheme. So it would be a good question for the recruit to ask to see if there is a fit. Caleb has inferred that he prefers to play the 4 position. Purdue has two centers , so he could play the 4, is his home state ,is closer for family to watch him play. and he could be The star player, on the way to the NBA. Do not know what the 5 position looks like for CAL . Brown is a SF . Rabb believe prefers the 4 but maybe would move to the 5 , but also feel he wants to play the position that he would be playing in the NBA. then add the players coming back. It was reported The Aztec coaching staff prepared for Zylan a complete power point presentation showing him where and how they planned on using him. They showed it to him at the last in home they had with him and his family. Winston asked the coaching staff when they were recruiting him, if he could get an opportunity to play PG .
So would guess both PT and where you play is important for a top 20 recruit and they have the leverage as it is their decision where they choose to play .
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Post by fisherville on May 7, 2015 17:19:13 GMT -8
Swanigan wouldn't be considering cal if Rabb didn't commit there, so obviously he doesn't care much about which position he will be played at. He might go to Purdue cause his legal guardian is pushing him there but nothing to do with positions.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on May 8, 2015 0:58:58 GMT -8
IMO HS recruits ,especially the top 20 recruits do want to know from the college coaches how they will be used in the offense .Most of the top recruits prefer to play the position in college that they will be playing in the NBA. Many also see themselves as one and done. Yes there are a variety of offenses , many do have the "5" player with their back to the basket , the "4" usually faces the basket. The 5 also usually guards the other teams 5 , in a man to man D . Yes every offense is different, according to the coaches scheme. So it would be a good question for the recruit to ask to see if there is a fit. Caleb has inferred that he prefers to play the 4 position. Purdue has two centers , so he could play the 4, is his home state ,is closer for family to watch him play. and he could be The star player, on the way to the NBA. Do not know what the 5 position looks like for CAL . Brown is a SF . Rabb believe prefers the 4 but maybe would move to the 5 , but also feel he wants to play the position that he would be playing in the NBA. then add the players coming back. It was reported The Aztec coaching staff prepared for Zylan a complete power point presentation showing him where and how they planned on using him. They showed it to him at the last in home they had with him and his family. Winston asked the coaching staff when they were recruiting him, if he could get an opportunity to play PG . So would guess both PT and where you play is important for a top 20 recruit and they have the leverage as it is their decision where they choose to play . I'm sorry, I didn't know that you knew what kids actually want. My apologies. Seriously, like everything else, each kid had unique sets of needs and our recruiters seem to work those angles individually. I will presume that top talent are probably more interested in how they will be featured and important to the scheme, whether they will be a scorer or facilitator - or perhaps how their role will develop and how they will be used relative to other key players. So many teams now have changed the roles of their forwards, as well. A last key is how defense is played, which is finally growing in emphasis in the NBA. So many variables, so many differences in kid's needs. |
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Post by standiego on May 8, 2015 11:37:46 GMT -8
Agree that every recruit has their own set of priorities ,why they chose the school they want to attend . As I noted ,I would Guess , as we all do , that for top 25 recruits ,one of the items they might ask, where are they are going to play on both the offense and defense for a team . If Caleb sees himself as a PF/4 going forward , then he may want to go to a school where he will get the majority of the PT playing at that position. ESPNU had noted that Caleb preferred the PF position. Purdue , his and his mentor's home state, had two centers, so Caleb did not have to worry about being the C .
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Post by ignoranus on May 8, 2015 11:40:31 GMT -8
Fish also has two centers. Caleb might like SD quite well, if he took the time to look things over.
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Post by sdcoug on May 8, 2015 12:08:03 GMT -8
I think ultimately dad wins out over the tremendous trio (Rabb/Brown). If the pull to potentially play in an Elite 8 was strong, he probably would have stayed at MSU.
Maybe the combination of a potential E8 + Rabb is greater than dad/family/local, but my guess is it's not.
And don't think it has ANYTHING to do with what position he's designated to play. He'd wouldn't be pigeon-holed into only playing inside on either team. He's a player who can play anywhere on the court, and both coaches would make that happen.
BTW, this is why fewer elite kids are signing LOI's and leaving their options open these days.
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Post by standiego on May 19, 2015 10:23:13 GMT -8
As predicted by many of us( and his mentor) he is going to Purdue to play PF .
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