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Post by Gundo on May 10, 2015 11:39:32 GMT -8
Right now priorities would include , verify what year Narain is going to come in , then see where we are with Cage , if not Cage then Kone or maybe both , Bailey - any chance we are still in the running , if not then Aaron - Just see so much more upside in a variety of skills and higher potential for Aaron then Max, or even hold on to the scholarship to see if there is a better transfer for 2016. Also a guard be it Cyrus or Moore . Do not go over 12 scholarships or even stay at 11 ,to see what happens . IMO Aaron , can score , rebound , pass , contribute in a variety of ways ,similar to Lo Wade, IMO better then Max , who seems to be more one dimensional, a shooter . Aaron was going to go back to the Cardinals , but they went out and recruited Lee , so he decided he was going to leave , but if we are taking a flyer or him vs Max , say it would be worth it to try it on Aaron ,who if he can get back to his HS potential could be a very good player. Believe we were looking for a player that would replace Smith , to me that is Bailey or Aaron . SF/SG Will see we what the coaches think , as they are the only ones that count . Believe Aaron is also visiting Oregon and Washington. Max UNLV and Rice . It's funny how these guys can take the time to do visits, I know my college kids are preparing for and taking Finals this week and the following. Are they not in school?
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Post by fisherville on May 10, 2015 15:11:52 GMT -8
I'm not sure about Oregon and Aaron but from what I've heard Aaron is unlikely to end up at Washington.
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Post by johnnyutah on May 10, 2015 18:37:30 GMT -8
Right now priorities would include , verify what year Narain is going to come in , then see where we are with Cage , if not Cage then Kone or maybe both , Bailey - any chance we are still in the running , if not then Aaron - Just see so much more upside in a variety of skills and higher potential for Aaron then Max, or even hold on to the scholarship to see if there is a better transfer for 2016. Also a guard be it Cyrus or Moore . Do not go over 12 scholarships or even stay at 11 ,to see what happens . IMO Aaron , can score , rebound , pass , contribute in a variety of ways ,similar to Lo Wade, IMO better then Max , who seems to be more one dimensional, a shooter . Aaron was going to go back to the Cardinals , but they went out and recruited Lee , so he decided he was going to leave , but if we are taking a flyer or him vs Max , say it would be worth it to try it on Aaron ,who if he can get back to his HS potential could be a very good player. Believe we were looking for a player that would replace Smith , to me that is Bailey or Aaron . SF/SG Will see we what the coaches think , as they are the only ones that count . Believe Aaron is also visiting Oregon and Washington. Max UNLV and Rice . It's funny how these guys can take the time to do visits, I know my college kids are preparing for and taking Finals this week and the following. Are they not in school? Unless your kids go Louisville or Indiana I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that they have different academic calendars.
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Post by AztecBill on May 10, 2015 18:46:10 GMT -8
Right now priorities would include , verify what year Narain is going to come in , then see where we are with Cage , if not Cage then Kone or maybe both , Bailey - any chance we are still in the running , if not then Aaron - Just see so much more upside in a variety of skills and higher potential for Aaron then Max, or even hold on to the scholarship to see if there is a better transfer for 2016. Also a guard be it Cyrus or Moore . Do not go over 12 scholarships or even stay at 11 ,to see what happens . IMO Aaron , can score , rebound , pass , contribute in a variety of ways ,similar to Lo Wade, IMO better then Max , who seems to be more one dimensional, a shooter . Aaron was going to go back to the Cardinals , but they went out and recruited Lee , so he decided he was going to leave , but if we are taking a flyer or him vs Max , say it would be worth it to try it on Aaron ,who if he can get back to his HS potential could be a very good player. Believe we were looking for a player that would replace Smith , to me that is Bailey or Aaron . SF/SG Will see we what the coaches think , as they are the only ones that count . Believe Aaron is also visiting Oregon and Washington. Max UNLV and Rice . I am not sure we are still recruiting Ben Kone. His ratings have really dropped. For example, ESPN had his position ranking #20 and now #48. There are reasons player's rankings drop like that.
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Post by mySTRAS on May 10, 2015 19:42:47 GMT -8
I am not sure we are still recruiting Ben Kone. His ratings have really dropped. For example, ESPN had his position ranking #20 and now #48. There are reasons player's rankings drop like that. Kinda tough to explain Brodricks Jones.
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Post by standiego on May 11, 2015 7:43:20 GMT -8
Other reviews say Kone is doing well on the AAU circuits . He visited here last December . played well in the CIF championship game for Mitty . Was second team CA . Do not think signing Cage is a lock . BJ according to numerous posts will be a project , so there is a need for guys down low . at PF/C . Narain and Zylan , seem to be the base . Not sure of other options that we sign.
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Post by ignoranus on May 11, 2015 8:16:57 GMT -8
Arizona has been so great the past few years because their front line featured a solid Tarski, Ashley, a rotation of one & dones and H-J coming off the bench. Four guys that will be playing in the NBA at some point. Add the Aztecs personal assassin NJ and a solid college level point guard to run the show and there was a really good team every night.
My point is that the Aztecs need Narain, Kone & Cage to play with ZC & BJ to compete up front with the highest level teams in college basketball. The guards will also have to measure up against elite level players. The Aztecs can not advance very far in MM if their play continues to get exposed like it was by Duke.
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Post by fisherville on May 11, 2015 8:38:42 GMT -8
Arizona has been so great the past few years because their front line featured a solid Tarski, Ashley, a rotation of one & dones and H-J coming off the bench. Four guys that will be playing in the NBA at some point. Add the Aztecs personal assassin NJ and a solid college level point guard to run the show and there was a really good team every night. My point is that the Aztecs need Narain, Kone & Cage to play with ZC & BJ to compete up front with the highest level teams in college basketball. The guards will also have to measure up against elite level players. The Aztecs can not advance very far in MM if their play continues to get exposed like it was by Duke. I don't understand the infatuation with Kone, he's a mid major recruit. In no way does that help us with the Arizona's with the world
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Post by hoobs on May 11, 2015 8:46:54 GMT -8
Arizona has been so great the past few years because their front line featured a solid Tarski, Ashley, a rotation of one & dones and H-J coming off the bench. Four guys that will be playing in the NBA at some point. Add the Aztecs personal assassin NJ and a solid college level point guard to run the show and there was a really good team every night. My point is that the Aztecs need Narain, Kone & Cage to play with ZC & BJ to compete up front with the highest level teams in college basketball. The guards will also have to measure up against elite level players. The Aztecs can not advance very far in MM if their play continues to get exposed like it was by Duke. I don't understand the infatuation with Kone, he's a mid major recruit. In no way does that help us with the Arizona's with the world I thought his play of late seemed to indicate much the opposite, that he was looking like a high-potential recruit. What am I missing? (said with complete sincerity)
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Post by ignoranus on May 11, 2015 9:04:09 GMT -8
I believe that Kone can play at a high level and that Aztec coaches will make him even better. Also, high IQ players often can play better than more athletic players because of their smarts. Kone is such a player, I believe.
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Post by fisherville on May 11, 2015 9:22:06 GMT -8
Everyone is open to their opinions on individual players, I guess I'm not as high on him as others. But I admit that obviously the coaching staff is better evaluating players than me. To me he's a undersized 5, that will be a defensive liability.
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Post by ignoranus on May 11, 2015 9:36:27 GMT -8
I can only hope that young Mr. Kone takes the opportunity to prove me right.
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Post by AztecBill on May 11, 2015 11:02:47 GMT -8
If the Aztecs had the same sentiment as ESPN and other services that he has dropped in rankings considerably, would Aztecs fans or the recruiting services know that we had stopped recruiting him?
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Post by sdcoug on May 11, 2015 14:06:17 GMT -8
If the Aztecs had the same sentiment as ESPN and other services that he has dropped in rankings considerably, would Aztecs fans or the recruiting services know that we had stopped recruiting him? There are a lot of different "sources" these days. You usually have someone on social media saying the "coaches are here/there....watching player X/Y" and/or players tweeting or posting FB pictures with members of the staff. Obviously this kid doesn't need to come in for another visit, so probably not going to be another Ziegler report pertaining to him.
If we didn't see anything in social media pertaining to Kone and/or if we saw/heard noise about him connecting with schools X, Y & Z (e.g. not SDSU) I think people would clue in, eventually. Not sure we're anywhere near that stage.
As for being "undersized", as you know there are 6'8 players who play big as well as 6'11 players who play small. A kid can make up for height was a long reach, and/or just being very strong, smart & aggressive. We also don't know if he's done growing. This is a kid who plays with the Oakland Soldiers, so he's faced plenty of solid, long players. I'm sure the shoe circuit will let us know if he's developing further, or if he's someone who's peaked. I'm thinking it's more the former than the latter. If he were 6'9 vs. 6'8 would you think differently of him? Wasn't Spencer 6'9 when he game here? Some actually list him as 6'9, 245. To me, if true, that's PLENTY big, although I'm sure he's really closer to 6'8, 230. Plus, love the fact he has touch - you rarely see a kid like him shooting 80% from the FT line, or 3-8 from 3PTs, as he's going with the Soldiers.
Also, I think if you have a kid like Nolan N who is agile or a Zylan who is a human pogo stick you can play a shorter, strong player with them defensively. Izzo is constantly playing 6'8 and 6'9 guys in the post & they're pretty good defensively.
Long ways until signing day, and a lot can develop. Plus, IMO, evaluating & forecasting big's is probably the toughest thing to do. I know I'm not good - when I saw Rabb as a Soph I couldn't see why everyone was so in love with him? Now, I kinda do. : )
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Post by standiego on May 11, 2015 15:11:59 GMT -8
the Aztec coaches are probably out there watching the AAU circuit events . guys are working to work their way up the rankings. Would say that we have not had the best record recruiting and developing HS centers . Skylar, ... . Thomas was a transfer. So we have BJ if he can play C , but seems slim frame . Narain if he will play C .? Cage wants to play PF and there is no guarantee he will sign here. So if we can get Kone would be very helpful . As mentioned if we have three strong guys along the front line can make up for not having the 7 ft guy . Depends on the quality of the players , also the reserves could play against other teams reserves .
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Post by Gundo on May 11, 2015 15:33:13 GMT -8
Any word on official visits? Hoetzel today, correct.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on May 11, 2015 16:06:47 GMT -8
the Aztec coaches are probably out there watching the AAU circuit events . guys are working to work their way up the rankings. Would say that we have not had the best record recruiting and developing HS centers . Skylar, ... . Thomas was a transfer. So we have BJ if he can play C , but seems slim frame . Narain if he will play C .? Cage wants to play PF and there is no guarantee he will sign here. So if we can get Kone would be very helpful . As mentioned if we have three strong guys along the front line can make up for not having the 7 ft guy . Depends on the quality of the players , also the reserves could play against other teams reserves . No, Fish really doesn't focus on that type of skill. Historically, he tends to favor bigs who play facing the basket.
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Post by sdcoug on May 11, 2015 16:15:45 GMT -8
Any word on official visits? Hoetzel today, correct. Yes. I'm not on twitter & it's probably still too early, but I'd guess those who are would see something from Max (or Holger?) in next day or so.
Aaron is sometime this week - haven't seen a day anywhere.
Also I can't recall if we're the first visit for both, or further down the road?
Would expect to hear something on 1 or the other by the 20th, if either is coming to the summer sessions.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on May 11, 2015 16:18:55 GMT -8
Any word on official visits? Hoetzel today, correct. Yes. I'm not on twitter & it's probably still too early, but I'd guess those who are would see something from Max (or Holger?) in next day or so.
Aaron is sometime this week - haven't seen a day anywhere.
Also I can't recall if we're the first visit for both, or further down the road?
Would expect to hear something on 1 or the other by the 20th, if either is coming to the summer sessions.
That's right, no school official or player can comment so the best place to look is Twitter and social media, then the recruiting websites.
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Post by Gundo on May 11, 2015 17:40:27 GMT -8
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