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Post by fisherville on May 5, 2015 9:24:30 GMT -8
Per Jeff Goodman, Aaron visiting next week, Hoetzel on 11th
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Post by adammclane on May 5, 2015 9:25:05 GMT -8
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Post by haleiwaaztec on May 5, 2015 9:48:07 GMT -8
Ok, looks like one of them will be our D1 Transfer that sits out next season - hopefully!
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Post by hoobs on May 5, 2015 10:07:41 GMT -8
I'd love to see Fish & co. land Shaqquan Aaron.
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Post by Gundo on May 5, 2015 10:18:50 GMT -8
I'd love to see Fish & co. land Shaqquan Aaron. He was a top 30 player out of HS, allegedly Pitino really had problems with him and his attitude. Perhaps, FISH would give him a second chance and open up his PT. Right now he is being courted by WA, OR and USC and has So Cal roots.
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Post by biotec on May 5, 2015 10:29:13 GMT -8
It was speculated by some on here that Aaron would want to play with former teammate Keith Smith (despite what I believe is a significant age gap), so it'd be funny to see him come here.
As for Hoetzel, anybody who can shoot the ball is okay with me.
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Post by sdcoug on May 5, 2015 11:37:25 GMT -8
It was speculated by some on here that Aaron would want to play with former teammate Keith Smith (despite what I believe is a significant age gap), so it'd be funny to see him come here. As for Hoetzel, anybody who can shoot the ball is okay with me. 2 years isn't a significant age gap. Believe they were teammates for 2 years, plus summer travel ball and summer league tourney play locally.
To me I thought the attraction for Aaron would be to play with RB teammate Murray at UW more so than Smith (they'd end up being in the same eligibility class), and it could be very appealing to have all 3 former teammates at the same place (UW). So was surprised when Smith went to UO.
The attitude thing is a little scary, but that's why you have team rules. If he doesn't buy in, he's out, and he knows next time he'd have to drop down a level if he f's up again (or lose another year entirely). A little more pressure to follow the rules.
Agree on Hoetzel.
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Post by sdsu2000 on May 5, 2015 13:21:47 GMT -8
Hoetzel I feel fits in with the team and would take over Shigley's spot on the floor for his last two years here. Aaron has the potential to up the level talent that gets us back to the Sweet 16 but also comes with a little baggage and possibly causes one player already on the roster to transfer out.
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Post by fisherville on May 5, 2015 13:41:10 GMT -8
Hoetzel I feel fits in with the team and would take over Shigley's spot on the floor for his last two years here. Aaron has the potential to up the level talent that gets us back to the Sweet 16 but also comes with a little baggage and possibly causes one player already on the roster to transfer out. Why would just Aaron cause potentially 1 player to transfer out and not Hoetzel too? Obviously you only take 1 if both wants to come, I'd prefer Hoetzel but he will cut into Cheatham's playing time some when he's eligible.
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Post by standiego on May 5, 2015 14:09:19 GMT -8
Hoetzel is a 6'8" Forward , that shoots similar to Shrigley . Would be intrigued to see how he would fit in the mix with Narain, Zylan , Allen, BJ with maybe Cage , Koen or others? Aaron very athletic guy similar to other Aztecs about 6'7" ,SF/SG
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Post by survalli on May 5, 2015 14:10:38 GMT -8
doubt Aaron whould play SG here. Would play SF as he did at Louisville, a position that seems to be pretty crowded already. All in for Hoetzel though, he is a legit outside threat.
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Post by aztecfury on May 5, 2015 14:31:23 GMT -8
Hoetzel is a 6'8" Forward , that shoots similar to Shrigley . Would be intrigued to see how he would fit in the mix with Narain, Zylan , Allen, BJ with maybe Cage , Koen or others? Aaron very athletic guy similar to other Aztecs about 6'7" ,SF/SG Either would fit in easily because we will desperately need small forwards for 2016. Dakari would be our only remaining SF, and so far he has not shown much shooting ability.
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Post by standiego on May 5, 2015 15:13:09 GMT -8
Hoetzel's stats from last year about 7 minutes per game for the total season, 24/56 on FG's , in 31 games , about 7 minutes per game , during the regular conference season 9 of 21 . So he did most of his scoring against OOC opponents. Average maybe 2 shots per game. 3 point shooting 10/29 for the year and 4/11 .Is he the best guy we could land for SF including 2016 HS recruits ?
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Post by hoobs on May 5, 2015 16:13:43 GMT -8
doubt Aaron whould play SG here. Would play SF as he did at Louisville, a position that seems to be pretty crowded already. All in for Hoetzel though, he is a legit outside threat. Not very crowded in 2016-2017 considering there's a pretty decent chance Pope will be off to the NBA.
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Post by sdcoug on May 5, 2015 16:36:40 GMT -8
Hoetzel's stats from last year about 7 minutes per game for the total season, 24/56 on FG's , in 31 games , about 7 minutes per game , during the regular conference season 9 of 21 . So he did most of his scoring against OOC opponents. Average maybe 2 shots per game. 3 point shooting 10/29 for the year and 4/11 .Is he the best guy we could land for SF including 2016 HS recruits ? He was a FR, so not going to use any of his stats to judge the player he could become. Highly regarded as a shooter, and would fill that perimeter shooter need we have. You can NEVER have enough shooters.
He'll come in with the 2015 class, since he'll be a SO when he plays in '16-17, and will give us good balance between classes. We'd still have at least 4 open scholarships after next year, and it's not easy to fill more than that with nothing but quality players (e.g. 4-star+). Agree with those saying he'd fill a Shrigs-type role, just more at the 4 than the 2 or 3.
He may not be our first choice but don't forget this is a kid Indy, Utah & even BSU all wanted out of HS. He's not chopped liver. Not everyone in a program is going to play 20+ minutes in their career (see DA). You need key role players, and he seems to me to be on the high end of that description.
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Post by ignoranus on May 6, 2015 5:41:55 GMT -8
Wasn't there some question about his ability to play defense at the D1 level?
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Post by standiego on May 6, 2015 9:13:21 GMT -8
As of today 2016 roster ( if Malik is gone ) 8 guys :Centers/Forwards 4= Narain, Zylan , BJ , Allen : Guards 4 = JH , Kell , Shrigley , DW.
Possible 2016 recruits ? C/F's: Cage , Kone , Bailey , Stanback , Harrison .... Guards Moore , Cyrus....
So with 8 as of now going to need to add at least 2 or 3, C/F , With Cage priority( can we sign him ?) Kone,? Bailey , Aaron , Hoetzel, Stanback , Harrison,.... Who do you prefer , of the remaining guys better make sure there is PT to recruit them and who can we actually get to sign ?.
plus need a guard Moore or Cyrus or....
Hoetzel 's stats were not great he was not an important part of their offense . . Was a spot shooter at best , not much of a defender , personally prefer a guy that can create their shot . He only took 56 shots , most of his scoring was against the poorer OOC teams IU played early. In BIG conference play he was 9 of 21 from the 18 games he played. Even D.Allen had 60 shots as a freshman Shrigley 168 . Think we can do better on both ends of the court . I would prefer a quality SF over Max .
Aaron is a matter of if the Coaches feel he could be a solid part of the Team and if there is a way he would participate in all aspects of the squad . Better potential if he is motivated to work . Also is there strong chance to sign Bailey?
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Post by thepapacy on May 6, 2015 9:21:19 GMT -8
So with 8 as of now going to need to add at least 2 or 3, C/F , With Cage priority( can we sign him ?) Kone,? Bailey , Aaron , Hoetzel, Stanback , Harrison,.... Who do you prefer , of the remaining guys better make sure there is PT to recruit them and who can we actually get to sign ?. plus need a guard Moore or Cyrus or.... Wish List #1 Bailey #2 Cage or Kone #3 Stanback #4 Aaron #5 Hoetzel Still want Marcus Lovett here too... He's going to the league before he's a junior no matter where he plays college ball
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Post by sdcoug on May 6, 2015 15:49:09 GMT -8
Hoetzel 's stats were not great he was not an important part of their offense . . Was a spot shooter at best , not much of a defender , personally prefer a guy that can create their shot . He only took 56 shots , most of his scoring was against the poorer OOC teams IU played early. In BIG conference play he was 9 of 21 from the 18 games he played. Even D.Allen had 60 shots as a freshman Shrigley 168 . Think we can do better on both ends of the court . I would prefer a quality SF over Max . Again, he was a FRESHMAN!! His FR stats do not dictate his talent moving forward nor what he can do for us. He had a strong shooting % which is why he's been recruited. Indiana was a guard oriented team; they didn't play many over 6'4. BTW, Hoetzel was in the rotation as a FR on a good team, and he took a shot every 4.3 minutes he was on the floor, which was around the overall team average. Among the 10 in their rotation he ranked 2nd off the bench in shots per minute played. He may not have got a lot of minutes playing behind Troy Williams, but when he did he was involved in the offense, and was pretty effective. BTW, his offensive rating would have placed him 2nd on our team this past year. Not apples to apples, but he's no slouch.
We'll have plenty of open scholarships for 2016 and could still add 2 more bigs/2 guards even with him on the roster. This kid would be in his 3rd year of college ball. I'd take a good, talented more polished & experienced player in his 3rd year over a 1st year guy with less polish, even if higher rated. If the coaches are paying to bring him in for a visit I'm sure they believe he has the talent and "quality" to contribute.
Some kids come into their own early; some later. I think Hoetzel is someone who would greatly benefit from a RS year. it would give him plenty of time to work with Hutson on D'.
Would we rather have some super stud who could start immediately in '16-17, hell yes. But they don't grow on trees. Tollefson went to Arizona; there aren't many freshmen Tollefson-types around and transferring either. Hoetzel is a good option to have, if we go in that direction.
BTW, Shrigley had ZERO shots as a true FR!
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Post by sdcoug on May 6, 2015 16:03:04 GMT -8
So with 8 as of now going to need to add at least 2 or 3, C/F , With Cage priority( can we sign him ?) Kone,? Bailey , Aaron , Hoetzel, Stanback , Harrison,.... Who do you prefer , of the remaining guys better make sure there is PT to recruit them and who can we actually get to sign ?. plus need a guard Moore or Cyrus or.... Wish List #1 Bailey #2 Cage or Kone #3 Stanback #4 Aaron #5 Hoetzel Still want Marcus Lovett here too... He's going to the league before he's a junior no matter where he plays college ball I don't think you can put the 5 on one combined list. We won't have a clue as to whether or not we can even get 1-3 until long after we need to make a decision on #4/#5, so seems to me the choices are:
2015 spring: 1a Aaron 1b Hoetzel or HOLD (which to me doesn't make sense w/o knowing if Norain is going 2015 or not - don't want 2 unused next year)
2015 fall/winter: 1a. Cage 1b. Kone (I really like his game & wouldn't be disappointed at all if got him & not Cage) 3. Bailey (love game but putting premium on getting a big) 4. Stanback 5. Cyrus/Moore
I'd take any combination of 4 from the latter group as long as either Cage or Kone are included.
Still may see new names surface as well....
Curious, lets say both Aaron & Hoetzel want to join the class, do you push Norrain for 2016 & take both, or do we only take 1 no matter what? I still want Norrain for 2015 so would only take 1 but...
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