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Post by ab on Apr 26, 2015 10:21:01 GMT -8
I was asked to participate in this and did last week. It was handled by a company out of Plano, TX contracted by the NFL. I didn't see the expert HighNSquat's mullet in attendance.
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Post by missiontrails on Apr 26, 2015 10:40:31 GMT -8
Everybody stay off Bruce's lawn, until I can get my popcorn popped.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 26, 2015 10:43:10 GMT -8
I was asked to participate in this and did last week. It was handled by a company out of Plano, TX contracted by the NFL. I didn't see the expert HighNSquat's mullet in attendance. I thought you had "far more important stuff to do than to sit on here day and night every freaking day of the week writing nonsense." Now, if you have any info on this focus group I'd be glad to read it. Cheers!
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 26, 2015 11:39:34 GMT -8
I was asked to participate in this and did last week. It was handled by a company out of Plano, TX contracted by the NFL. I didn't see the expert HighNSquat's mullet in attendance. You actually have me curious ... what is the value of an "OPEN AIR STADIUM FOCUS GROUP" to the NFL at this point in the process between the City of San Diego and the Chargers organization? I'm interested in how the focus group was presented the information and how it will apply to the pre-determined outcome for which the focus group was convened to support.
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 26, 2015 20:28:36 GMT -8
I was asked to participate in this and did last week. It was handled by a company out of Plano, TX contracted by the NFL. I didn't see the expert HighNSquat's mullet in attendance. You actually have me curious ... what is the value of an "OPEN AIR STADIUM FOCUS GROUP" to the NFL at this point in the process between the City of San Diego and the Chargers organization? I'm interested in how the focus group was presented the information and how it will apply to the pre-determined outcome for which the focus group was convened to support. All focus groups are useful for are random quotes, insights to support real facts from a quantitative study or to help design a Quant study. But wouldn't surprise me to see the NFL wasting money.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Apr 26, 2015 21:38:58 GMT -8
I was asked to participate in this and did last week. It was handled by a company out of Plano, TX contracted by the NFL. I didn't see the expert HighNSquat's mullet in attendance. You do realize that the focus group was phase II of the market assessment by the NFL owners and participants in both phases, the emails and the focus groups, were selected from season ticketholder records (current and past) of the Chargers. I am not exactly sure what you are chest thumping about? Were you expecting to see HnT in attendance because he has been a bolt honk talking up his season ticket status in all of these threads? Congrats you're a ticket broker who has charger season tickets, you went to the focus group. They held one in St. Louis, San Diego, and will have one in LA. The number one question they are trying to understand, will you buy PSL's. In St. Louis, the early returns say that St. Louis fans would buy PSL's for the Rams but not the Raiders. They also said the vast majority of the remaining time was spent by confused fans trying to understand how a ~23 year old stadium (with renovations in 09 and 10) is now a dump. Let's hope all of the Charger Season Ticket Holders put their money where their mouths are and voiced support for buying PSL's for the Chargers. If you really want to keep the Chargers, then you better hope so and you better hope that was the answer on the mail surveys. Aztecmesa, where the Charger Honks attack Aztec Fans on an Aztec board for not being Charger Fans aka Spanoi Fan.
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Post by hoobs on Apr 27, 2015 3:03:01 GMT -8
Aztecmesa, where the Charger Honks attack Aztec Fans on an Aztec board for not being Charger Fans. Truth.
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 27, 2015 8:57:14 GMT -8
I was asked to participate in this and did last week. It was handled by a company out of Plano, TX contracted by the NFL. I didn't see the expert HighNSquat's mullet in attendance. They held one in St. Louis, San Diego, and will have one in LA. The number one question they are trying to understand, will you buy PSL's. Hopefully that's not what they're trying to answer with the FG's. The survey, sure. With the FG I'd assume they have the groups narrowed down & are trying to understand WHY they will and WHY they won't, not IF they will or won't.
Hopefully they're using the FG's to have customers likely to buy brainstorm as to the perceived benefits of buying PSL's so they can use those to entice other people down the road.
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Post by Spud on Apr 27, 2015 9:58:00 GMT -8
They're in trouble if they think View section people will pay for ANY PSL's...
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 27, 2015 10:22:00 GMT -8
So pretty much this Fan Focus Group is basically going to give the NFL the "scientific" poll they need to prove that San Diego won't be able to support the financing of a stadium through PSLs (and that LA will) ... and they may even get some quotes from fans to back up their assertions. They will establish the markets' financial devotion level to their team, the price point at which PSLs will be unsellable and the ability of the NFL to control the market.
All this coming on the heels of the NFL changing their loan rules to remove the civic financial contribution requirement tells me that PSLs in general are not working in LA for the Chargers either ...
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Post by aztech on Apr 27, 2015 10:40:57 GMT -8
I was asked to participate in this and did last week. It was handled by a company out of Plano, TX contracted by the NFL. I didn't see the expert HighNSquat's mullet in attendance. You do realize that the focus group was phase II of the market assessment by the NFL owners and participants in both phases, the emails and the focus groups, were selected from season ticketholder records (current and past) of the Chargers. I am not exactly sure what you are chest thumping about? Were you expecting to see HnT in attendance because he has been a bolt honk talking up his season ticket status in all of these threads? Congrats you're a ticket broker who has charger season tickets, you went to the focus group. They held one in St. Louis, San Diego, and will have one in LA. The number one question they are trying to understand, will you buy PSL's. In St. Louis, the early returns say that St. Louis fans would buy PSL's for the Rams but not the Raiders. They also said the vast majority of the remaining time was spent by confused fans trying to understand how a ~23 year old stadium (with renovations in 09 and 10) is now a dump. Let's hope all of the Charger Season Ticket Holders put their money where their mouths are and voiced support for buying PSL's for the Chargers. If you really want to keep the Chargers, then you better hope so and you better hope that was the answer on the mail surveys. Aztecmesa, where the Charger Honks attack Aztec Fans on an Aztec board for not being Charger Fans aka Spanoi Fan. This begs the question. Have the PSLs been sold out at the Q?
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Post by aardvark on Apr 27, 2015 13:01:17 GMT -8
You do realize that the focus group was phase II of the market assessment by the NFL owners and participants in both phases, the emails and the focus groups, were selected from season ticketholder records (current and past) of the Chargers. I am not exactly sure what you are chest thumping about? Were you expecting to see HnT in attendance because he has been a bolt honk talking up his season ticket status in all of these threads? Congrats you're a ticket broker who has charger season tickets, you went to the focus group. They held one in St. Louis, San Diego, and will have one in LA. The number one question they are trying to understand, will you buy PSL's. In St. Louis, the early returns say that St. Louis fans would buy PSL's for the Rams but not the Raiders. They also said the vast majority of the remaining time was spent by confused fans trying to understand how a ~23 year old stadium (with renovations in 09 and 10) is now a dump. Let's hope all of the Charger Season Ticket Holders put their money where their mouths are and voiced support for buying PSL's for the Chargers. If you really want to keep the Chargers, then you better hope so and you better hope that was the answer on the mail surveys. Aztecmesa, where the Charger Honks attack Aztec Fans on an Aztec board for not being Charger Fans aka Spanoi Fan. This begs the question. Have the PSLs been sold out at the Q? They have PSL's there now?
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Post by missiontrails on Apr 27, 2015 13:15:27 GMT -8
This begs the question. Have the PSLs been sold out at the Q? They have PSL's there now? "Personal Sh*tter License" - who says the Chargers don't care about the long bathroom lines?
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Post by ab on Apr 27, 2015 13:57:06 GMT -8
I was asked to participate in this and did last week. It was handled by a company out of Plano, TX contracted by the NFL. I didn't see the expert HighNSquat's mullet in attendance. Sorry I didn't finish my psot when I started the thread but something happened that I had to run out to deal with immediately.
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Post by ab on Apr 27, 2015 14:02:01 GMT -8
I was asked to participate in this and did last week. It was handled by a company out of Plano, TX contracted by the NFL. I didn't see the expert HighNSquat's mullet in attendance. You actually have me curious ... what is the value of an "OPEN AIR STADIUM FOCUS GROUP" to the NFL at this point in the process between the City of San Diego and the Chargers organization? I'm interested in how the focus group was presented the information and how it will apply to the pre-determined outcome for which the focus group was convened to support. Not sure why I'm bothering to attempt to answer your questions but I will. As to the value, you'd have to ask the NFL as they paid for it. Questions were asked of us showing other newer stadiums and their PSL rates in those stadiums. We were asked various questions as to whether or not we currently or have ever owned season tickets. If we didn't currently own them why we didn't. If we didn't how many games/year we attend and where/how do we buy tickets. We were asked about our familiarity of the other newer stadiums. We were asked if we would continue to support the Chargers if they moved to L.A. We were also asked if we'd support another team if one moved here to replace the Chargers. We were asked if a new stadium was built here in San Diego, how likely we'd buy season tickets. they asked about the mini-Club packages similar to the new ones in the Rose Bowl w/ 4 seats/tv monitors in a private box would be of interest. there were a bunch of questions. There were some comparisons and questions relating to the Padres vs. Chargers. As far as it being scientific, I'd say it wasn't.
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Post by ab on Apr 27, 2015 14:04:16 GMT -8
I was asked to participate in this and did last week. It was handled by a company out of Plano, TX contracted by the NFL. I didn't see the expert HighNSquat's mullet in attendance. You do realize that the focus group was phase II of the market assessment by the NFL owners and participants in both phases, the emails and the focus groups, were selected from season ticketholder records (current and past) of the Chargers. I am not exactly sure what you are chest thumping about? Were you expecting to see HnT in attendance because he has been a bolt honk talking up his season ticket status in all of these threads? Congrats you're a ticket broker who has charger season tickets, you went to the focus group. They held one in St. Louis, San Diego, and will have one in LA. The number one question they are trying to understand, will you buy PSL's. In St. Louis, the early returns say that St. Louis fans would buy PSL's for the Rams but not the Raiders. They also said the vast majority of the remaining time was spent by confused fans trying to understand how a ~23 year old stadium (with renovations in 09 and 10) is now a dump. Let's hope all of the Charger Season Ticket Holders put their money where their mouths are and voiced support for buying PSL's for the Chargers. If you really want to keep the Chargers, then you better hope so and you better hope that was the answer on the mail surveys. Aztecmesa, where the Charger Honks attack Aztec Fans on an Aztec board for not being Charger Fans aka Spanoi Fan. You sure like to assume that you KNOW stuff and you struck out more than once here. I haven't had Chargers season tickets since the Svare days. It makes NO DIFFERENCE TO My BUSINESS WISE where the team plays. I do far more business in Jerry's World and the Georgia Dome annually than for all San Diego teams put together. (see Full Monty's head spinning)
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Post by ab on Apr 27, 2015 14:06:16 GMT -8
They're in trouble if they think View section people will pay for ANY PSL's... There was one guy in the group who said he wouldn't pay any PSLs no matter what. I responded that I have to pay a PSL or mandatory donation for both my Aztec football tickets as well as my hoops tickets annually. Would he mind if the ticket prices were raised and included the PSL/Surcharge in the final price? He didn't seem to get it. $2000 PSL to be paid over 10 years. $200/year or $20/game. Wowee!
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Post by ab on Apr 27, 2015 14:07:04 GMT -8
So pretty much this Fan Focus Group is basically going to give the NFL the "scientific" poll they need to prove that San Diego won't be able to support the financing of a stadium through PSLs (and that LA will) ... and they may even get some quotes from fans to back up their assertions. They will establish the markets' financial devotion level to their team, the price point at which PSLs will be unsellable and the ability of the NFL to control the market. All this coming on the heels of the NFL changing their loan rules to remove the civic financial contribution requirement tells me that PSLs in general are not working in LA for the Chargers either ... It's all the amount of the PSLs. Don't you pay PSLs/mandatory donations for your Aztec tickets EVERY YEAR? I sure do.
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Post by ab on Apr 27, 2015 14:08:40 GMT -8
That's bullcrap and everybody knows it. It's obvious that many aren't Chargers fans for whatever reasons and that's their choices. But it's also bullcrap thinking that San Diego and San Diego St would be better off without the Chargers playing in San Diego. I find it ironic that so many complain about a tax increase of whatever amount to support a new stadium but it also appears that it's going to take a substantial fund drive for State to build their own stadium wherever. Per DJ Wicker in State's administration, $$$ is NOT earmarked to either build an on-campus stadium or take over the Q.
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Post by ab on Apr 27, 2015 14:11:35 GMT -8
You do realize that the focus group was phase II of the market assessment by the NFL owners and participants in both phases, the emails and the focus groups, were selected from season ticketholder records (current and past) of the Chargers. I am not exactly sure what you are chest thumping about? Were you expecting to see HnT in attendance because he has been a bolt honk talking up his season ticket status in all of these threads? Congrats you're a ticket broker who has charger season tickets, you went to the focus group. They held one in St. Louis, San Diego, and will have one in LA. The number one question they are trying to understand, will you buy PSL's. In St. Louis, the early returns say that St. Louis fans would buy PSL's for the Rams but not the Raiders. They also said the vast majority of the remaining time was spent by confused fans trying to understand how a ~23 year old stadium (with renovations in 09 and 10) is now a dump. Let's hope all of the Charger Season Ticket Holders put their money where their mouths are and voiced support for buying PSL's for the Chargers. If you really want to keep the Chargers, then you better hope so and you better hope that was the answer on the mail surveys. Aztecmesa, where the Charger Honks attack Aztec Fans on an Aztec board for not being Charger Fans aka Spanoi Fan. This begs the question. Have the PSLs been sold out at the Q? for the Chargers? Don't think PSLs have ever been charged. Aztec season tickets owners in many parts of the stadium have to pay a PSL/mandatory donation. That was started by former AD Fred Miller.
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