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Post by Sdsu4life on Apr 15, 2015 21:34:08 GMT -8
Friday college games are dumb. They are no different than saturday night games. They are played during the evening on a day that falls within the week. The only difference is one of the days is called a friday and the other is called saturday. You don't say the same thing about college baskebtall tues/wednesday games, right? No, they are simply GAMEDAY, just like saturday games. If you work, that is life. Some people work saturdays on gamedays too. So really, if there is a difference between the two, the friday game is better since there is a limited amount of games on that day, which means more exposure for us. I love college football, I watch college football. I don't watch just SDSU and then turn the tv off. I watch all college football. So, thursday/friday ESPN games are great. They are a great way for smaller teams to play on the national level, and get some exposure.
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Post by sdsudevil on Apr 15, 2015 23:30:02 GMT -8
Friday college games are dumb. They are no different than saturday night games. They are played during the evening on a day that falls within the week. The only difference is one of the days is called a friday and the other is called saturday. You don't say the same thing about college baskebtall tues/wednesday games, right? No, they are simply GAMEDAY, just like saturday games. If you work, that is life. Some people work saturdays on gamedays too. So really, if there is a difference between the two, the friday game is better since there is a limited amount of games on that day, which means more exposure for us. I love college football, I watch college football. I don't watch just SDSU and then turn the tv off. I watch all college football. So, thursday/friday ESPN games are great. They are a great way for smaller teams to play on the national level, and get some exposure. Fridays do have rush hour, limited time for out of owners to get there, and tailgate is shorter. Those would be my cons.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Apr 16, 2015 5:49:52 GMT -8
They are no different than saturday night games. They are played during the evening on a day that falls within the week. The only difference is one of the days is called a friday and the other is called saturday. You don't say the same thing about college baskebtall tues/wednesday games, right? No, they are simply GAMEDAY, just like saturday games. If you work, that is life. Some people work saturdays on gamedays too. So really, if there is a difference between the two, the friday game is better since there is a limited amount of games on that day, which means more exposure for us. I love college football, I watch college football. I don't watch just SDSU and then turn the tv off. I watch all college football. So, thursday/friday ESPN games are great. They are a great way for smaller teams to play on the national level, and get some exposure. Fridays do have rush hour, limited time for out of owners to get there, and tailgate is shorter. Those would be my cons. Those definitely are true, and understand the gripe about those. But, seeing how we only have one friday game, and it is announced 4+ months prior, people can plan ahead. They can ask for the day off, or they can work half day, or put a plan together where you have your clothes in your car, and rush down here after work. If every single one of our home games is on a friday, then ya, it will be tough for a lot of people and I would understand their gripe, but seeing how we have only 1 of these games, and we get a 4+ month notice, we have time to be proactive and take the measures if we think we will be late due to work and traffic. I'd take a tuesday night game over a saturday night game if it meant we got on national or even regional television. Kids and teens fall in love with the teams they see on tv on a regular basis. It instills it into their subconscious. I grew up an SC fan, and it was solely because they were on cbs every single saturday night growing up. It had nothing to do with them winning. They were actually pretty bad during those years. But, I got to see them play every single week, and got to witness first hand their turnaround into some of the best teams college football has ever seen. I got to see it first hand, not read it in the paper, or see a 2 min segment on it on espn or the news. And it all had nothing to do with what day they played on. The same would have happened if it was thursday/friday nights on cbs every single week. Didn't make a difference.
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Post by hoobs on Apr 16, 2015 6:25:33 GMT -8
Some fair points, but a Fri night would be HORRIBLE for Homecoming...
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 16, 2015 6:26:59 GMT -8
Fridays do have rush hour, limited time for out of owners to get there, and tailgate is shorter. Those would be my cons. Those definitely are true, and understand the gripe about those. But, seeing how we only have one friday game, and it is announced 4+ months prior, people can plan ahead. They can ask for the day off, or they can work half day, or put a plan together where you have your clothes in your car, and rush down here after work. If every single one of our home games is on a friday, then ya, it will be tough for a lot of people and I would understand their gripe, but seeing how we have only 1 of these games, and we get a 4+ month notice, we have time to be proactive and take the measures if we think we will be late due to work and traffic. I'd take a tuesday night game over a saturday night game if it meant we got on national or even regional television. Kids and teens fall in love with the teams they see on tv on a regular basis. It instills it into their subconscious. I grew up an SC fan, and it was solely because they were on cbs every single saturday night growing up. It had nothing to do with them winning. They were actually pretty bad during those years. But, I got to see them play every single week, and got to witness first hand their turnaround into some of the best teams college football has ever seen. I got to see it first hand, not read it in the paper, or see a 2 min segment on it on espn or the news. And it all had nothing to do with what day they played on. The same would have happened if it was thursday/friday nights on cbs every single week. Didn't make a difference. That may be a tough concept for quite a few people ... Planning ahead is something not enough people do, and this may actually help in getting more fans to step up support of the team beyond deciding to whether or not to go to the game the day of (or a few days prior to) the game based on the teams' progress in the previous weeks.
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 16, 2015 6:39:23 GMT -8
Some fair points, but a Fri night would be HORRIBLE for Homecoming... I don't know ... if it were treated like an event -- it shouldn't matter what day it falls on. Advanced notice and a cooperative campus are the starting points of a successful homecoming. An active and involved Alumni and/or fanbase willing to take the time off of work (including school-aged kids if applicable) to attend the whole event and taking campus tours to show the modernization of campus to parents and to get those kids excited to be future Aztecs. Yeah it's "better" on a Saturday -- but there's no reason it can't be successful on a Friday, carnival and all. Let's try to live up to that 'Aztecs for Life' thing and take a day or so off of work to celebrate being an Aztec!
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Post by hoobs on Apr 16, 2015 7:36:33 GMT -8
Some fair points, but a Fri night would be HORRIBLE for Homecoming... I don't know ... if it were treated like an event -- it shouldn't matter what day it falls on. Advanced notice and a cooperative campus are the starting points of a successful homecoming. An active and involved Alumni and/or fanbase willing to take the time off of work (including school-aged kids if applicable) to attend the whole event and taking campus tours to show the modernization of campus to parents and to get those kids excited to be future Aztecs. Yeah it's "better" on a Saturday -- but there's no reason it can't be successful on a Friday, carnival and all. Let's try to live up to that 'Aztecs for Life' thing and take a day or so off of work to celebrate being an Aztec! I just know that a fair number of people don't have the same "luxuries" some of us do in terms of "just taking a day off." And those people, either due to inflexible work obligations, kids/school, or whatever else would be totally excluded from all the festivities & events... and would be lucky to be able to make the game at all, and even then only if they live in SD. I've never heard of a school doing Homecoming on a Friday, and I suspect there are very good reasons for that. Other than the Homecoming angle, I have no issues at all with a single Friday night game on the schedule... in face I think it's a great way to get good TV exposure.
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Post by ziggy on Apr 16, 2015 7:52:17 GMT -8
Some fair points, but a Fri night would be HORRIBLE for Homecoming... I don't know ... if it were treated like an event -- it shouldn't matter what day it falls on. Advanced notice and a cooperative campus are the starting points of a successful homecoming. An active and involved Alumni and/or fanbase willing to take the time off of work (including school-aged kids if applicable) to attend the whole event and taking campus tours to show the modernization of campus to parents and to get those kids excited to be future Aztecs. Yeah it's "better" on a Saturday -- but there's no reason it can't be successful on a Friday, carnival and all. Let's try to live up to that 'Aztecs for Life' thing and take a day or so off of work to celebrate being an Aztec! Event or not Friday would suck for out of towners.
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Post by myownwords on Apr 16, 2015 7:55:23 GMT -8
If Sterk was involved in this planning (which I doubt), it would be one of few times that I agree with him. To me, I'm okay with scheduling any day of the week. When it comes to football, SDSU has been almost invisible to the rest of the country, for many years. We must seek opportunities which provide exposure without other bigger names diverting attention. Quite naturally, we don't have the luxury of "calling the shots". Louisville and Boise State come to mind with similar strategies and it has served them well.
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Post by sdsudevil on Apr 16, 2015 8:28:23 GMT -8
Those definitely are true, and understand the gripe about those. But, seeing how we only have one friday game, and it is announced 4+ months prior, people can plan ahead. They can ask for the day off, or they can work half day, or put a plan together where you have your clothes in your car, and rush down here after work. If every single one of our home games is on a friday, then ya, it will be tough for a lot of people and I would understand their gripe, but seeing how we have only 1 of these games, and we get a 4+ month notice, we have time to be proactive and take the measures if we think we will be late due to work and traffic. I'd take a tuesday night game over a saturday night game if it meant we got on national or even regional television. Kids and teens fall in love with the teams they see on tv on a regular basis. It instills it into their subconscious. I grew up an SC fan, and it was solely because they were on cbs every single saturday night growing up. It had nothing to do with them winning. They were actually pretty bad during those years. But, I got to see them play every single week, and got to witness first hand their turnaround into some of the best teams college football has ever seen. I got to see it first hand, not read it in the paper, or see a 2 min segment on it on espn or the news. And it all had nothing to do with what day they played on. The same would have happened if it was thursday/friday nights on cbs every single week. Didn't make a difference. That may be a tough concept for quite a few people ... Planning ahead is something not enough people do, and this may actually help in getting more fans to step up support of the team beyond deciding to whether or not to go to the game the day of (or a few days prior to) the game based on the teams' progress in the previous weeks. I'm trying, they need to figure out when HC is We'll be taking the week off for it, so we can hit all the stuff we have missed since we've been gone. If it is in November, I hope a BBall game was on that week.
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 16, 2015 8:52:31 GMT -8
I don't know ... if it were treated like an event -- it shouldn't matter what day it falls on. Advanced notice and a cooperative campus are the starting points of a successful homecoming. An active and involved Alumni and/or fanbase willing to take the time off of work (including school-aged kids if applicable) to attend the whole event and taking campus tours to show the modernization of campus to parents and to get those kids excited to be future Aztecs. Yeah it's "better" on a Saturday -- but there's no reason it can't be successful on a Friday, carnival and all. Let's try to live up to that 'Aztecs for Life' thing and take a day or so off of work to celebrate being an Aztec! I just know that a fair number of people don't have the same "luxuries" some of us do in terms of "just taking a day off." And those people, either due to inflexible work obligations, kids/school, or whatever else would be totally excluded from all the festivities & events... and would be lucky to be able to make the game at all, and even then only if they live in SD. I've never heard of a school doing Homecoming on a Friday, and I suspect there are very good reasons for that. Other than the Homecoming angle, I have no issues at all with a single Friday night game on the schedule... in face I think it's a great way to get good TV exposure. I have already detailed that it'd be better on a Saturday ... and I am not so sure that the out-of-town folks can't put together a schedule given enough advanced notice. It's true not everyone has a flexible schedule that allows for spur of the moment changes, but it is also true that given enough notice, most people can trade a shift, request a day off or otherwise amend their schedule. What we need is some cooperation with our Alma mater by giving enough advanced notice of not just the date of Homecoming, but also to make it more of an event to attract more alumni home. Designate a partner hotel for alumni discounts, get the schedule of events out early -- add a networking event at the hotel for both out of town folks and locals to mix and maybe make it into a fundraiser with auctions or something. I guess what I am saying is give us more of a reason to make the time to come home to SDSU beyond just a football game. There are so many graduates that live in SD County that don't donate, don't visit campus and just don't have strong ties to the university they graduated from. We really need to do a better job of bringing them back into the fold.
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Post by sdsudevil on Apr 16, 2015 9:02:51 GMT -8
I just know that a fair number of people don't have the same "luxuries" some of us do in terms of "just taking a day off." And those people, either due to inflexible work obligations, kids/school, or whatever else would be totally excluded from all the festivities & events... and would be lucky to be able to make the game at all, and even then only if they live in SD. I've never heard of a school doing Homecoming on a Friday, and I suspect there are very good reasons for that. Other than the Homecoming angle, I have no issues at all with a single Friday night game on the schedule... in face I think it's a great way to get good TV exposure. I have already detailed that it'd be better on a Saturday ... and I am not so sure that the out-of-town folks can't put together a schedule given enough advanced notice. It's true not everyone has a flexible schedule that allows for spur of the moment changes, but it is also true that given enough notice, most people can trade a shift, request a day off or otherwise amend their schedule. What we need is some cooperation with our Alma mater by giving enough advanced notice of not just the date of Homecoming, but also to make it more of an event to attract more alumni home. Designate a partner hotel for alumni discounts, get the schedule of events out early -- add a networking event at the hotel for both out of town folks and locals to mix and maybe make it into a fundraiser with auctions or something. I guess what I am saying is give us more of a reason to make the time to come home to SDSU beyond just a football game. There are so many graduates that live in SD County that don't donate, don't visit campus and just don't have strong ties to the university they graduated from. We really need to do a better job of bringing them back into the fold. I agree with this. They do no parade, no publicized Alumni dinner (that I know of), and of course, the stadium is not on campus. The best thing about homecoming is the actual "coming home" part, getting back to campus. Nothing we can do about football, but some events that bring people back to campus area would help. I know, we don't have all the money in the world to throw at this type of stuff, but it's a glaring hole I see, compared to other schools. Although a lot of schools don't do parades and floats as much anymore.
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Post by standiego on Apr 16, 2015 11:54:18 GMT -8
Interesting article in the UT . Aztecs will get $300,000 bonus for the ESPN2 game this year . Last year we got zero bonus money . For the whole year we received $795,000 from the MW for all our TV games . Third lowest in the MW. AD thought we would get $1.2 million . Nothing on the money BSU received
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Apr 16, 2015 12:59:30 GMT -8
Just like the 8 PM basketball games, I don't like this personally. For those of us the use the 5, Fridays are a nightmare.
But the bottom line is..... for $300K, I'm down with it.
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 16, 2015 14:16:52 GMT -8
Interesting article in the UT . Aztecs will get $300,000 bonus for the ESPN2 game this year . Last year we got zero bonus money . For the whole year we received $795,000 from the MW for all our TV games . Third lowest in the MW. AD thought we would get $1.2 million . Nothing on the money BSU received Boise St is guaranteed a minimum of $1.1M from ESPN from at least 3 appearances on either ESPN or ESPN2, and one of those games must be on a Saturday. That $1.1M is in addition to their standard share of the MWC disbursement.
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on Apr 16, 2015 14:55:18 GMT -8
I have dubious feelings with any decision made by the powers that be of the MWC with regards to it's members sports programs.
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Post by retiredaztec on Apr 16, 2015 15:06:29 GMT -8
I had posted some time ago that the proliferation of cable sports networks was going to be a boon for mid-level programs. A few years ago I would have thought ROOT had been the revival of theMTN given the number of MW games it televised that year.
This proliferation is truly the next best thing. Now State needs to give them something worth televising.
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 16, 2015 18:36:40 GMT -8
I had posted some time ago that the proliferation of cable sports networks was going to be a boon for mid-level programs. A few years ago I would have thought ROOT had been the revival of theMTN given the number of MW games it televised that year. This proliferation is truly the next best thing. Now State needs to give them something worth televising.We're the most desirable team in the entire conference to broadcast and it's not even close. Hence why CBSSN always picks us up, and why our games are never available for ESPN to have the chance to televise.
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Post by standiego on Apr 16, 2015 18:52:54 GMT -8
BSU used BE to get a great deal for themselves in football,from the MW, they also keep winning so they get the money, there should be one major goal for SDSU win the MW and be the best team of the G5, to get the money. OR If not Sterk ought to look at options of joining the AAC with 1 other West traveling partner for all sports . Only getting $795,000 from the MW TV deal is a joke and major problem.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 19:22:51 GMT -8
BSU used BE to get a great deal for themselves in football,from the MW, they also keep winning so they get the money, there should be one major goal for SDSU win the MW and be the best team of the G5, to get the money. OR If not Sterk ought to look at options of joining the AAC with 1 other West traveling partner for all sports . Only getting $795,000 from the MW TV deal is a joke and major problem. Yeah our BB tourney credits alone are probably double that $800k.
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