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Post by Gundo on Apr 17, 2015 0:35:10 GMT -8
Last summer the posts about Zabo was about how ripped he was, his work ethic and comparisons to Spain. Many of you said we found then next X. Now you guys rip him? $#!+ why do you play him that way? Would you dis your kid that way? Look at yourself. Kell was compared to Spain - not Zabo. Go back to proposed lineup thread and you will find very few, if any, with Zabo. Bill I still am looking forward to your minutes played analysis for 2015. Is that coming soon? And I am being honest here.
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Post by sdsustoner on Apr 17, 2015 7:29:43 GMT -8
This will happen more often as it does for top basketball teams nationwide.
Guys who are good, but not good enough at this level want PT.
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Post by aztecvatar on Apr 17, 2015 14:36:52 GMT -8
It is concerning to me when a kid doesn't want to compete for PT. Says something about his heart.
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Post by uncledougy on Apr 17, 2015 14:53:45 GMT -8
Bottom line.....Zabo did not perform well and lost play time. He was given the chance early on, and just didn't have it for some reason. Kinda surprised most of us.
Not sure why DW doesn't get a shot at PG? His defense is off the charts and don't think we have seen enough of his "in-game" offense to make a fair assessment.
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Post by jdaztec on Apr 17, 2015 15:00:37 GMT -8
If I was DW thats exactly what I would be saying to Fish. "Put me in Coach I'm ready to Play"...
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Post by aztech on Apr 17, 2015 15:22:12 GMT -8
Bottom line.... .Zabo did not perform well and lost play time. He was given the chance early on, and just didn't have it for some reason. Kinda surprised most of us. Not sure why DW doesn't get a shot at PG? His defense is off the charts and don't think we have seen enough of his "in-game" offense to make a fair assessment. That is what's puzzling. The same could be said of Kell, yet he continued to get playing time. Once they pulled Zabo, it was like the staff knew he wouldn't fit into the program, period. It makes me wonder how Hutson felt about it since he's the one who recruited him. Fisher has to be accountable too. I'm sure he saw Zabo's films during the recruiting process.
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Post by standiego on Apr 17, 2015 15:27:57 GMT -8
He was recruited to compete for the PG position , as X was graduating, first HS recruit to verbal . He played for an up tempo AAU team and HS Prep team . Came to SDSU in the early summer , worked both summer sessions with current and previous Aztecs . Then during practice the Coach moved Kell from SG to PG . Staff saw Kell as a guy with good BB IQ ( JJ ) . When that did not work out 5th year senior AQ , became the PG . Believe Zabo had trouble breaking through screens on defense( but so did other guards) . He had good offensive stats . Then the team had difficulties , so the offense started going through JJ . less real PG play , as AQ became a 3 point shooter . The slow down style. Zabo was more of a PG with a quicker more attacking style. Zabo slipped behind DW , then got injured and rarely played . Aztecs last November singed JH as a PG . End of the year Zabo said he was looking at coming back . Went home his dad saw no playing time, only saw his son play 1 time, and the word out there that Aztecs wanted an experienced PG to go with JH . So as was said in another post Zabo would start as the fourth PG , behind Kell who even though he was a SG in HS started here at PG at SDSU -plus a local guy , JH ( some reports during the season that JH had been slated to be THE PG for 2015 )DW , also reports that a 5th year transfer was coming . So maybe a lot of things , being thousands of miles away from the family, little PT once MW started , being "slated in " as the 4th or 5th option, changing his style of play from HS , So maybe the family convinced him to at least look at the options closer to home with three years to play
So the best to Kevin and maybe consider this as over and out .
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Post by csfoster on Apr 18, 2015 6:28:41 GMT -8
Hopes it works out for him.
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Post by Den60 on Apr 18, 2015 8:50:21 GMT -8
Every year in college ,players come and go . Good coaches try to evaluate the talent / skills of the guys and put together a good offense and defense based on that talent. That means adjusting the scheme to fit the players talents . The 2015-16 season could look very different on offense . This past year , we did not have good guard play , offense evolved through JJ at PF . Before that it was the X PG oriented offense . Before that X got the ball to Jamaal mid range or Chase outside shot . Before that it was DJ to the front line or he would take a shot . We will see what the offense looks like for 2015-16 . Do believe JH can handle the PG position ,getting his team mates involved in the offense , moving at a faster pace then previously , especially trying to find ways to get the ball to Malik or the other guys down low . similar to the offense , when we had Leonard , White , Thomas down low and Chase for the outside shot . Key this year getting a lot more transition opportunities . I do not think Shepard , Malik,Spencer and others care if it a freshman or whom ever as long as they get the ball . Yes, you go to where your strengths are and this year it wasn't at guard. AQ gave us as much as he could, but he was limited athletically and playing the point had him out of position. He also had games where his back was giving him a lot of problems. I do think the coaches erred when they tried to make TK the PG. I think they went with him there because he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. In retrospect I wish we would have worked DW more early on because once we got in the tournament we didn't match up well at the guard position (it didn't help that AQ was sick). You saw this against St Johns which we were able to overcome. But against Duke we didn't - though stupid turnovers and, reportedly, illness was a contributing factor. Put JH at the point next year with DW this first backup. I've seen a bit of JH and he can drive to the basket and make it, he does have a nice floater, and he hit 85% of his free throws as a senior. He isn't as good as X was from the 3 and he won't be a good as X was as a senior but we shouldn't have to rely on him to score like we did X. He is supposed to be a good passer but the film I've seen of him doesn't showcase that. Move Kell to the #2 where he is most suited with him and Shrigley competing for time. DA likely competes for time there as well. If we can score the ball Allen is a guy who you can bring in as a defensive specialist but he really needs to improve his outside shot this offseason if he wants more time. I think we are fine upfront if WS comes back. If he doesn't then adding Tollefsen is very important (though I want him even if WS comes back). If we can have a front line of Spencer/Chol/Pope/Shepard/Tollefsen/Cheatham I think that would be very solid. Right now we are not deep at the guard position with only JH, DW and Kell being what I would call classic guards. Shrigs and DA are more of a hybrid guard/small forward though DA seems to be a decent ball hander. Right there you are pretty deep with 11 players (I'm counting Tollefsen or another 5th year transfer) who should see quality time next year and you still have a scholarship open. If DA decides to transfer then we will need to bring in another guard who can play immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 9:05:56 GMT -8
You just can't tell how players will work out until they play at D1 level. An opinion yes, but that is all.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 22, 2015 0:25:38 GMT -8
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Post by aztech on Apr 22, 2015 1:09:14 GMT -8
Who's to say he wouldn't have transferred out of any of those schools as well?
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Post by Gundo on Jun 8, 2015 21:46:52 GMT -8
Any word on Zabo playing ball and going to school in the fall.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jun 8, 2015 23:04:18 GMT -8
I can't say why Zabo didn't work out here, but I'm wondering if his story, and that of AQ, for that matter, isn't telling us something about Aztec recruiting. We have gotten and continue to get some really great players. But, unlike Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, UCLA, and similar elite BB schools, we can't simply order in top prospects as a kid would order fries at a fast food place. It looks as if SDSU still has to rely at times on kids who must change positions because we aren't strong enough everywhere. The P5 schools have so much depth that their second or third stringers are as good or better than starters on many run-of-the-mill schools.
SDSU is clearly not run-of-the-mill. However, SDSU is not quite at the elite level, either. Consecutive years getting to or beyond the Elite-Eight might put us in that category.
AzWm
PS: I just thought of something. During Steve Fisher's tenure in basketball, SDSU has had five different football coaches.
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Post by Mr. PacMan Jones on Jun 9, 2015 0:25:32 GMT -8
You are the most idiotic poster I have ever come across Mod's please reprimand this poster. Per Forum Rules: *Be (somewhat) nice. Be civil. Refrain from personal attacks or namecalling. Do not post comments critical of other board members. Address their comments, not the members themselves. Let's keep this a nice forum for our various discussions. (We just don't want endless bickering, and we want this to be a family safe board...) *Harassing other board members (repeatedly criticizing them) is also against forum rules. *If posting a picture make sure it's work safe. That should be self-explanatory. Thanks in advance, The Real Oracle Out
You're allowed to break the rules if you kiss Erik and William's ass good enough.
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Post by standiego on Jun 9, 2015 7:32:48 GMT -8
could the moderators close this post until Zabo selects a school , then start a new post if needed . Zabo was a great guy who came across the country , PG recruit , then Aztecs tried to make Kell a PG after they had gotten verbal from Zabo . IMO he deserved a lot more PT , so he transferred out back toward home as we brought in JH for 2015. Then when Narain asked him about SDSU he said SDSU was a great school . Great kid and probably very good player .
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Post by thepapacy on Jun 9, 2015 8:24:44 GMT -8
Mod's please reprimand this poster. Per Forum Rules: *Be (somewhat) nice. Be civil. Refrain from personal attacks or namecalling. Do not post comments critical of other board members. Address their comments, not the members themselves. Let's keep this a nice forum for our various discussions. (We just don't want endless bickering, and we want this to be a family safe board...) *Harassing other board members (repeatedly criticizing them) is also against forum rules. *If posting a picture make sure it's work safe. That should be self-explanatory. Thanks in advance, The Real Oracle Out
You're allowed to break the rules if you kiss Erik and William's ass good enough.
Honey Badger is back! JJ must have taken another week smashing his girl.
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Post by Gundo on Jul 11, 2015 15:16:14 GMT -8
FYI This was on Twitter a couple of weeks ago. I saw some one asking about Zano recently. Hofstra, Utah Valley, George Washington, Rice, Northeastern, James Madison & Boston U are involved with San Diego State transfer Kevin Zabo. 6:42 PM - 22 Jun 2015
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Post by jdaztec on Jul 11, 2015 18:27:19 GMT -8
Good to hear. Seems like a fine young man.
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Post by csfoster on Jul 12, 2015 7:41:28 GMT -8
I wish him the best of luck. He deserves it.
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