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Post by aztec1990 on Apr 1, 2015 18:38:12 GMT -8
Question.
1) I know none of the people who have come to SDSU are MAA (Except Burns) but do we offer scholarship to these guys?
2). I feel like (feel but don't know) we don't go after these guys. For example Rabb out of Oaklnd has an offer from Cal, Arizona, UCLA, Kansas, and Kentucky. Why not from us? He is just an example but as I watch all of these "west" players none are coming here.
Aztec1990
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Post by RB Aztec on Apr 1, 2015 19:08:13 GMT -8
Perhaps Fisher does not like "1 and Done" athletes on his team.
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Post by Zuma on Apr 1, 2015 19:12:02 GMT -8
Or he sent out feelers, and the kid said, sorry coach, it's pac 12 or nothing for me. Or he met the kid and his parents didn't mesh with coach. Or the kid said he is allergic to wearing the color red.
Or it is just as you are vaguely eluding to, that fisher isn't going after the top kids. That must be it.
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Post by momoney on Apr 1, 2015 19:14:36 GMT -8
I think Fisher keeps the bar low on who he feels he has a real chance of getting. Sometimes I feel like if they're very skilled, he just assumes he can't get them and so he doesnt bother with them.
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Post by rednblk on Apr 1, 2015 19:23:27 GMT -8
We'll get there. Currently we are getting 4 star kids on the regular. The top 25 five star kids are coming.
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Post by keepersdsu on Apr 1, 2015 19:28:09 GMT -8
Question. 1) I know none of the people who have come to SDSU are MAA (Except Burns) but do we offer scholarship to these guys? 2). I feel like (feel but don't know) we don't go after these guys. For example Rabb out of Oaklnd has an offer from Cal, Arizona, UCLA, Kansas, and Kentucky. Why not from us? He is just an example but as I watch all of these "west" players none are coming here. Aztec1990 Out of the 5 schools you mentioned, 4 have won a ton of National Titles, and the other is close to where the kid is from. With these types of players you either need to be the home school, or be a true blue blood. No reason to waste time and money on a kid that will be going to top 5 program.
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Post by originalshow00 on Apr 1, 2015 19:30:42 GMT -8
I say offer every single MAA and see what happens.Who cares if there are two one and dones a year especially if we win the whole f-ing thing.
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Post by aztec1990 on Apr 1, 2015 19:52:32 GMT -8
I say offer every single MAA and see what happens.Who cares if there are two one and dones a year especially if we win the whole f-ing thing. Good point, but we have everything that UNLV has to offer and they seem to offer these kids scholarships and some of them take it. I know they have not done well but that is more coaching then anything else. Yes UNLV has a national Title but that was before they were even born so I can't imagine that is the draw. Either way if you are a top 25 kid out west we should be offering them a scholarship. It's like asking out the hot girl the worse she will do is say no. Aztec 1990
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Post by Ghost Dad on Apr 1, 2015 20:01:04 GMT -8
Fisher needs to hurry up and retire so that SDSU could hire an Aztec Mesa member that obviously knows more about running a basketball program than he does.
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Post by missiontrails on Apr 1, 2015 20:40:02 GMT -8
When Duke and Kentucky literally have 18 of the currently active McD's All Americans, it doesn't leave much pickings for us red bloods. And just because a given 5 star player doesn't have a "formal offer" from SDSU, it doesn't mean Fish and Co didn't try their best to get a player interested enough to actually make that offer. With all the players out there, you do what you can to gauge a player's interest, then move on when there's no chance. Fish ain't no Lloyd Christmas. (Dumb & Dumber reference, for the uninitiated.)
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Post by originalshow00 on Apr 1, 2015 20:41:41 GMT -8
Fisher needs to hurry up and retire so that SDSU could hire an Aztec Mesa member that obviously knows more about running a basketball program than he does. Not saying Fish does not know,in fact he said he would take a MAA in a heartbeat.Could you imagine this team with two elite players one at center and one at point guard or shooting guard.Allen and Williams redshirt = Championship
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Post by vision on Apr 2, 2015 7:17:56 GMT -8
Wasn't WS3 a MAA? I think He and Evan Burns were the only two thus far for SDSU to sign and come to school. We don't need to blindly offer these guys, We only offer to carefully selected TEAM players that are carefully vetted by the coaching staff. MAA doesn't necessarily equate to great...case in point EVAN BURNS.
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Post by MarshallU on Apr 2, 2015 7:34:32 GMT -8
Fisher needs to hurry up and retire so that SDSU could hire an Aztec Mesa member that obviously knows more about running a basketball program than he does. Not saying Fish does not know,in fact he said he would take a MAA in a heartbeat.Could you imagine this team with two elite players one at center and one at point guard or shooting guard.Allen and Williams redshirt = Championship allen and williams are going to redshirt in the middle of their eligibility? that's your plan?
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Post by originalshow00 on Apr 2, 2015 7:57:42 GMT -8
Not saying Fish does not know,in fact he said he would take a MAA in a heartbeat.Could you imagine this team with two elite players one at center and one at point guard or shooting guard.Allen and Williams redshirt = Championship allen and williams are going to redshirt in the middle of their eligibility? that's your plan? Either that or transfer both of them need some work on there games.Thats how they got to this point is playing older players/transfers and great coaching.
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Post by MarshallU on Apr 2, 2015 8:05:30 GMT -8
ok, so apparently you.....
[screw it, this is going to be pointless... hitting the eject button]
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Post by jpaztec on Apr 2, 2015 8:12:48 GMT -8
Wasn't WS3 a MAA? I think He and Evan Burns were the only two thus far for SDSU to sign and come to school. We don't need to blindly offer these guys, We only offer to carefully selected TEAM players that are carefully vetted by the coaching staff. MAA doesn't necessarily equate to great...case in point EVAN BURNS. Nope.
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Post by jpaztec on Apr 2, 2015 8:26:42 GMT -8
As far as our program has come, Duke beat us by 20, plays on ESPN what feels like twice a week, has a TON of tradition, fan support, major love from the media, etc. The blue bloods will get these guys by default 90% of the time due to the above mentioned reasons, and the other 10% will be the UNLV's and Gonzaga's and like programs that devote all their resources into recruiting them, and UNLV's case, build a prep school right outside of their campus to feed them into the program. The easy access they have is undeniable in getting guys like Vaughn and Bennett and Wood to sign.
Coach Fisher is a realist, knows that time on the recruiting trail is valuable, and if a player is of a certain caliber, such as an MAA, time is better spent on the 4 star guys that will be around for a while. You don't build a program on one and done's, see UNLV. You build it by getting quality recruits that get better in your system for a couple years, and then win you big games against the blue bloods in the dance and in the big TV tournaments. The only way I see us getting one soon is a big tournament run, a couple guys going in the first couple rounds of the draft, or it being a local kid who grew up around the program and has a dedication to it for that reason. Kentucky has the luxury of coming in late during a recruitment and getting a kid, where as we're eyeballing that talent early and building a multi-year relationship with them.
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Post by standiego on Apr 2, 2015 9:14:08 GMT -8
Fisher has been asked does he recruit "one and done " players . simple answer Yes . But the coaches have all said you need to really want to play D at SDSU or you do not play. Numerous guys do not want to stress that part of their game - it takes a lot of energy and takes some from your offensive game . So many of the top 20 guys do not include SDSU on their list of schools . Head recruiter Hutson is a realist on the recruiting trail . When he was recruiting for PG 's , he realized chances to land J. MaC , Hamilton were slim he selected Zabo . Duke just recently has really moved from "4 year guys " to the One and Done . We are NOT a P5 school . There is a divide from the Blue Bloods and those that are not . It has taken Gonzaga 15 years to get towards E8/F4 , but they had not been able to crack the top 25 recruits until ( maybe 2016 if Collins ends up there ,but not MAA) . They recruit guys up , bring in transfers , guys from Europe ... but did not see them with an MAA . Rebels can bring in guys because they have strong ties to Findlay Prep ,(not sure if there are great ones in CA ) , Do not know if we can actually land the top recruit for 2017,going to Balboa Prep , here in San Diego, that would be our greatest chance. But Kentucky and others are also recruiting him. Leaf is going to Arizona 2016 . Do not think Cage #35 is going to be MAA but maybe? Rebels have great connections to AAU all over especially in the East ,AAU connections are key , also have a coach on the staff that played in the NBA . Rebels also play a run and gun style that attracts certain guys .
We have gotten to SW16 twice but need to get even further to really get us closer to the real top programs .
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Post by sdsustoner on Apr 2, 2015 18:07:50 GMT -8
I think Fisher keeps the bar low on who he feels he has a real chance of getting. Sometimes I feel like if they're very skilled, he just assumes he can't get them and so he doesnt bother with them. I hope this was sarcasm Bro, this class we have coming in. That is the first class since our first Sweet 16 that made some see SDSU as more than some MWC school through their entire recruiting cycle. Last year's class were in their freshman year in HS. On that Sweet 16 team, we had one 4 star player in Kawhi...our second ever. With the class coming in, we now have a possibility of 4 players with 4 star ratings and 2 with a 5 star for next year depending on WS.
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Post by momoney on Apr 2, 2015 23:51:05 GMT -8
I think Fisher keeps the bar low on who he feels he has a real chance of getting. Sometimes I feel like if they're very skilled, he just assumes he can't get them and so he doesnt bother with them. I hope this was sarcasm Bro, this class we have coming in. That is the first class since our first Sweet 16 that made some see SDSU as more than some MWC school through their entire recruiting cycle. Last year's class were in their freshman year in HS. On that Sweet 16 team, we had one 4 star player in Kawhi...our second ever. With the class coming in, we now have a possibility of 4 players with 4 star ratings and 2 with a 5 star for next year depending on WS. last year recruiting class was good. This year recruiting class we only have two players, JH, who I think will be a good player. BJ, who I don't think is very good so I don't expect him to really amount to nothing in the future.
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