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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 16:23:01 GMT -8
Point Guard Anthony Collins will be a 5th year senior eligible to play immediately. He's transferring from the University of South Florida.
Averaged 7.1 points shooting 44% from the field, 5.2 assists and 2.4 turnovers.
He's from Houston, Texas... maybe a Winston Shepard connection???
This is purely speculative... We just need a point guard.
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Post by standiego on Mar 23, 2015 18:12:25 GMT -8
Coach Fisher on the radio tonight . Asked biggest need for 2015 -16 . Is it PG ?, no just need guys that can score the basketball
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 24, 2015 5:13:34 GMT -8
5.2 assists... that sounds nice. Without look it it up, we probably haven't had someone average anywhere near that since Westley Stokes
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Mar 24, 2015 7:14:24 GMT -8
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Post by leastcoast on Mar 24, 2015 7:30:09 GMT -8
5.2 assists... that sounds nice. Without look it it up, we probably haven't had someone average anywhere near that since Westley Stokes I wonder how many assists he'd have got if his job was to bring the ball up do a couple ball screens and then dump the ball off to jj. they relied on jj too much to create from the post. he's a smart player good size etc, but not an overwhelming (must double team) player because he just didn't look for his own shot enough the primary ball handlers (AQ, kell and shep) had problems but if that damn ball moved more (schematically) they'd get in a better flow to make shots. maybe this collins kid is good but I bet if you put one of our young guards in another system I think their stats go up dramatically. imagine if they had c.webb at jj's position... bam you get to a final 4. maybe you replace AQ or shep with jalen rose... there ya go. the system works but you need a specific skill set at these positions to put pressure on the opposing D I think putting pope at JJ's spot where he has range extending beyond the 3 could remedy a lot. he can post and pass over smaller guys and be too fast for bigger interior players. he didn't demonstrate great passing this year but he hardly had the chance to. if he can't pass you get him moving off screens away from the ball (ala reggie miller) to get him on mismatches that the team can exploit. during that duke game I kept seeing dudes that were almost a foot shorter than him guarding him on the wing and nobody passed it to him. I have to conclude it's because the coaching staff believed the seniors got them there and the seniors were going to win (or lose the game) another summer with shep, kell, zabo, and d'erryl and the pt guard position should be fine |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 24, 2015 8:10:36 GMT -8
5.2 assists... that sounds nice. Without look it it up, we probably haven't had someone average anywhere near that since Westley Stokes I wonder how many assists he'd have got if his job was to bring the ball up do a couple ball screens and then dump the ball off to jj. they relied on jj too much to create from the post. he's a smart player good size etc, but not an overwhelming (must double team) player because he just didn't look for his own shot enough the primary ball handlers (AQ, kell and shep) had problems but if that damn ball moved more (schematically) they'd get in a better flow to make shots. maybe this collins kid is good but I bet if you put one of our young guards in another system I think their stats go up dramatically. imagine if they had c.webb at jj's position... bam you get to a final 4. maybe you replace AQ or shep with jalen rose... there ya go. the system works but you need a specific skill set at these positions to put pressure on the opposing D I think putting pope at JJ's spot where he has range extending beyond the 3 could remedy a lot. he can post and pass over smaller guys and be too fast for bigger interior players. he didn't demonstrate great passing this year but he hardly had the chance to. if he can't pass you get him moving off screens away from the ball (ala reggie miller) to get him on mismatches that the team can exploit. during that duke game I kept seeing dudes that were almost a foot shorter than him guarding him on the wing and nobody passed it to him. I have to conclude it's because the coaching staff believed the seniors got them there and the seniors were going to win (or lose the game) another summer with shep, kell, zabo, and d'erryl and the pt guard position should be fine Yeah I agree with a lot of that...disagree about your Webb statement, JJ wasn't the problem.. it was not having anyone particularly athletic at the guard position. AQ and Kell just weren't a good combo to run point IMO because of their foot speed and agility.. they'd get smothered by opposing PG's who were way more athletic because the opposing PG's knew Kell and AQ couldn't beat them off the dribble so they could be overly aggressive... that was blatantly exposed when we played good teams with good guards. And not sure where the Jalen Rose statement comes in because if you put a NBA hall of famer on any team they immediately get a lot better, but that doesn't have anything to do with the point anyway.. We've never ran an offense that was very PG friendly in terms of assists as long as Fisher has been here. Him averaging 5.2 assists tells me he's at least a capable passer though, whereas if you plug in AQ to South Florida's offense I doubt he averages anywhere near 5.2 assists per game... he just doesn't seem like a very capable passer to me even if he was in the right system. Not saying we should necessarily get this guy, but 5.2 assists in college is pretty high. We aren't going to get this guy or probably any PG out there though, so none of this matters. Fisher will stick with Kell, Zabo, Hemsley, and maybe Williams will work his way in there too. I know I've said it a lot on this board but I still like Zabo though, he seemed to have good court vision and was deceptively quick with the ball in his hands. Just needed some more game experience to improve his decision making. |
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Post by standiego on Mar 24, 2015 8:28:16 GMT -8
I would agree that the first step should be a meeting with the coaches and the current players on who may comeback to see what the needs are . Fisher was asked is the top need a PG , he said the need is guys that can score the basketball .The staff should have an honest talk with KZ and DW ,to see if they see them as possible guys that could get major PT, or not at PG . If not then let them move on.
I would agree assists are very important , we need a guard that can see the whole court , pass first and make his team mates better scorers . WS , TK and AQ tried but were not real PG 's so the offense went through JJ . Our offense has not always been the best for guys getting assists . 1: we miss too many shots off a good pass . 2: if a guard passed it into JJ and he had to dribble and work the lane to get his basket, the scorer may not give the passer an assist , it is a judgment call .
Do think the offense needs to evolve into a faster pace style , to use the very athletic guys we recruit . Transition , fast breaks , alley oops , cuts to the basket rather then the slow down style . We do not have a X for ball screen style or JJ - elbow style . Suggest the coaches change their style of offense not try to have a player try to mold to their style .Use the athletic guys on offense not just defense .
TK was a SG in HS , let him stay at that position , score the basketball . Either use KZ , DW or recruit JH at PG . If not then bring what the coaches need but sometimes wonder how easy that is for a PG to learn .
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Post by leastcoast on Mar 24, 2015 8:53:46 GMT -8
I wonder how many assists he'd have got if his job was to bring the ball up do a couple ball screens and then dump the ball off to jj. they relied on jj too much to create from the post. he's a smart player good size etc, but not an overwhelming (must double team) player because he just didn't look for his own shot enough the primary ball handlers (AQ, kell and shep) had problems but if that damn ball moved more (schematically) they'd get in a better flow to make shots. maybe this collins kid is good but I bet if you put one of our young guards in another system I think their stats go up dramatically. imagine if they had c.webb at jj's position... bam you get to a final 4. maybe you replace AQ or shep with jalen rose... there ya go. the system works but you need a specific skill set at these positions to put pressure on the opposing D I think putting pope at JJ's spot where he has range extending beyond the 3 could remedy a lot. he can post and pass over smaller guys and be too fast for bigger interior players. he didn't demonstrate great passing this year but he hardly had the chance to. if he can't pass you get him moving off screens away from the ball (ala reggie miller) to get him on mismatches that the team can exploit. during that duke game I kept seeing dudes that were almost a foot shorter than him guarding him on the wing and nobody passed it to him. I have to conclude it's because the coaching staff believed the seniors got them there and the seniors were going to win (or lose the game) another summer with shep, kell, zabo, and d'erryl and the pt guard position should be fine Yeah I agree with a lot of that...disagree about your Webb statement, JJ wasn't the problem.. it was not having anyone particularly athletic at the guard position. AQ and Kell just weren't a good combo to run point IMO because of their foot speed and agility.. they'd get smothered by opposing PG's who were way more athletic because they opposing PG's knew Kell and AQ couldn't beat them off the dribble so they could be overly aggressive... that was blatantly exposed when we played good teams with good guards. And not sure where the Jalen Rose statement comes in because if you put a NBA hall of famer on any team they immediately get a lot better, but that doesn't have anything to do with the point anyway.. We've never ran an offense that was very PG friendly in terms of assists as long as Fisher has been here. Him averaging 5.2 assists tells me he's at least a capable passer though, whereas if you plug in AQ to South Florida's offense I doubt he averages anywhere near 5.2 assists per game... he just doesn't seem like a very capable passer to me even if he was in the right system. Not saying we should necessarily get this guy, but 5.2 assists in college is pretty high. We aren't going to get this guy or probably any PG out there though, so none of this matters. Fisher will stick with Kell, Zabo, Hemsley, and maybe Williams will work his way in there too. I know I've said it a lot on this board but I still like Zabo though, he seemed to have good court vision and was deceptively quick with the ball in his hands. Just needed some more game experience to improve his decision making. main reason I mention jalen rose is because he ran the point the way shep does only he's better at using his size advantage in the post and took over that jj/c.webb /offensive focal point the year c.webb left. I agree with you on the present inability of the point guards. I think the way they handled the duke full court press spoke volumes. anytime there was pressure they passed across the court, back and forth until they got across the halfcourt stripe. I'm pretty sure x woulda broke the press a little before passing or would get a screen and take off. I also agree with you that fisher is staying with the guys he recruited. if they get a transfer it'll be somebody willing to do the dirty work and help chol and sky. gonna stand by my opinion that jj didn't shoot enough nor was he enough of a threat to score. he was great on the team and thankful he bounced back but defenders from the wings didn't come down to the post to double meaning there weren't guys open for jj to pass to. guys either had to cut in or jj had to retreat back to the 3 and face up where his defender knew he wasn't shooting. c.webb might not be the fairest example but he's a guy that was placed in the same position in fisher's offense but a much more potent scorer. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 9:04:11 GMT -8
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Post by Gundo on Apr 21, 2015 0:44:24 GMT -8
Todays CBS Twitter feed has this kid looking at Texas A&M, Baylor and Tennessee. No Aztec sighting at all.
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Post by Old School on Apr 21, 2015 8:57:04 GMT -8
Meh, he probably wants to stay close to home.
Oldie Out
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Post by Gundo on Apr 26, 2015 22:24:06 GMT -8
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