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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 15:42:52 GMT -8
Check out WHYOS OOC this year, 2015, then tell me how they're doing. We get a "big boy school" every other year, so not sure what your point is...sound more like a CFB fan than an Aztec fan to me. That's ok, you can be more of a CFB fan, then an Aztec, your prerogative. Your definition of a big boy is not the same as mine. I won't list them again but there are 15 which are viewed as having football cache nationally. Only one, USC, plays in the Pac-12. Yeah, those programs are probably the hardest in all of CFB to schedule. If nothing else you have the California sports fan mindset boiled down to its harshest truth...we are front runners and don't care about the story, the climb, or the hard work, or even the program really, we only want to be cascaded, and awash in the successes...that must arrive yesterday. Building something is for every other part of the country...but not here. Gimme now. We want Aztec fans, we add more by winning the games on the schedule. You do that and games against the most storied programs will eventually happen and on better terms (i.e. hopefully no 2fers).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 15:43:51 GMT -8
2fors are risky because the P5 usually gets their 2 home games first and will then sometimes try to buy their way out of the 3rd (away) game. I think we should avoid that route at all costs. Gee . . . maybe we might not have to concern ourselves about that if the games were at their place, at Qualcomm and then at their place again? Time for Sterk to start earning his money. And with due respect, how some of you continue to defend the man over and over is just amazing. Its easy when those taking aim, rarely if ever, have a grasp on reality.
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Post by McQuervo on Apr 20, 2015 15:45:29 GMT -8
No Illinois is decent.
Why not Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Kansas, Wazzu?
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 20, 2015 15:58:15 GMT -8
Your definition of a big boy is not the same as mine. I won't list them again but there are 15 which are viewed as having football cache nationally. Only one, USC, plays in the Pac-12. Yeah, those programs are probably the hardest in all of CFB to schedule. If nothing else you have the California sports fan mindset boiled down to its harshest truth...we are front runners and don't care about the story, the climb, or the hard work, or even the program really, we only want to be cascaded, and awash in the successes...that must arrive yesterday. Building something is for every other parts of the country...but not here. We want Aztec fans, we add more by winning the games on the schedule. You do that and games against the most storied programs will eventually happen and on better terms (i.e. hopefully no 2fers). A verbal representation of your graph. Both of which totally ignore three decades of ineptitude which preceded the modest gains of the last several years.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 16:02:23 GMT -8
Yeah, those programs are probably the hardest in all of CFB to schedule. If nothing else you have the California sports fan mindset boiled down to its harshest truth...we are front runners and don't care about the story, the climb, or the hard work, or even the program really, we only want to be cascaded, and awash in the successes...that must arrive yesterday. Building something is for every other parts of the country...but not here. We want Aztec fans, we add more by winning the games on the schedule. You do that and games against the most storied programs will eventually happen and on better terms (i.e. hopefully no 2fers). A verbal representation of your graph. Both of which totally ignore three decades of ineptitude which preceded the modest gains of the last several years. And of course now we should be scheduling the blue bloods on CFB, with no issue, on the reg, gotcha.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 20, 2015 16:21:47 GMT -8
adding to that WYO does have future H&Hs with Nebraska and Missouri ... but I don't see that as materially different than our H&Hs with UCLA & Arizona To me its more important to have PAC schools on the schedule than anyone else, that's if we really believe we can rise to a top 25 program that is... The reason I say this is they are our direction competition for talent. Plus they reside in the conference we covet the most, even if we'll never be a part of it. Now that we are locked in with HnH for the next 8+ years we need to win 2/3's of those. If we do that expect better recruiting, better home games(outside the PAC), and better attendance. I think the saying is, "just win baby!" I would like to see us schedule some BIG XII schools home & home as well but continue to focus primarily on the PAC 12 schools. Particularly easy travel destinations such as Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, UCLA, USC and Stanford.
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 20, 2015 17:38:57 GMT -8
To me its more important to have PAC schools on the schedule than anyone else, that's if we really believe we can rise to a top 25 program that is... The reason I say this is they are our direction competition for talent. Plus they reside in the conference we covet the most, even if we'll never be a part of it. Now that we are locked in with HnH for the next 8+ years we need to win 2/3's of those. If we do that expect better recruiting, better home games(outside the PAC), and better attendance. I think the saying is, "just win baby!" I would like to see us schedule some BIG XII schools home & home as well but continue to focus primarily on the PAC 12 schools. Particularly easy travel destinations such as Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, UCLA, USC and Stanford. the point of the back and forth is that some see H&Hs with BigXII schools like Texas Tech, Baylor and Oklahoma St as lesser opponents along with Pac-12 members Arizona, Arizona St. & Cal as small time ... these schools just don't do it for some fans who think we ought to be scheduling Texas, Oklahoma & USC -- even if we have to accept 2:1's to get them at the Q
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 17:45:22 GMT -8
exactly, something about only the top 15 programs all-time, as being worthy of driving any interest.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 20, 2015 18:09:23 GMT -8
I would like to see us schedule some BIG XII schools home & home as well but continue to focus primarily on the PAC 12 schools. Particularly easy travel destinations such as Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, UCLA, USC and Stanford. the point of the back and forth is that some see H&Hs with BigXII schools like Texas Tech, Baylor and Oklahoma St as lesser opponents along with Pac-12 members Arizona, Arizona St. & Cal as small time ... these schools just don't do it for some fans who think we ought to be scheduling Texas, Oklahoma & USC -- even if we have to accept 2:1's to get them at the Q What can I say. Some people just don't get it. We should definitely get some BIG XII schools on the schedule since that seems to be the only P5 conference we have a small chance of joining someday. It would be a good litmus test for both SDSU and the BIG XII schools.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Apr 20, 2015 20:04:28 GMT -8
the point of the back and forth is that some see H&Hs with BigXII schools like Texas Tech, Baylor and Oklahoma St as lesser opponents along with Pac-12 members Arizona, Arizona St. & Cal as small time ... these schools just don't do it for some fans who think we ought to be scheduling Texas, Oklahoma & USC -- even if we have to accept 2:1's to get them at the Q What can I say. Some people just don't get it. We should definitely get some BIG XII schools on the schedule since that seems to be the only P5 conference we have a small chance of joining someday. It would be a good litmus test for both SDSU and the BIG XII schools. We've been thru this so many times. What would be their incentive to come to SD? They can schedule Texas El Paso for an easy win. They can go to Salt Lake City or Boulder and get a much better payday. And, coming here would mean they would have to have us there. Why is their advantage with that? And, we present the possibility of upsetting a Texas Tech for example. It is increasingly difficult for SDSU to get games. Credit Sterk with the Pac 12 upgrades coming. They have alumni here and can travel here relatively easily, less so with Big 12 teams.
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 20, 2015 20:13:53 GMT -8
What can I say. Some people just don't get it. We should definitely get some BIG XII schools on the schedule since that seems to be the only P5 conference we have a small chance of joining someday. It would be a good litmus test for both SDSU and the BIG XII schools. We've been thru this so many times. What would be their incentive to come to SD? They can schedule Texas El Paso for an easy win. They can go to Salt Lake City or Boulder and get a much better payday. And, coming here would mean they would have to have us there. Why is their advantage with that? And, we present the possibility of upsetting a Texas Tech for example. It is increasingly difficult for SDSU to get games. Credit Sterk with the Pac 12 upgrades coming. They have alumni here and can travel here relatively easily, less so with Big 12 teams. I think us almost beating Mizzou in 2010 has given a few teams 2nd thoughts about scheduling us for a body bag game, let alone the H&H -- we're probably in that class of teams that are a risk for low level P5s to schedule.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 20, 2015 22:02:19 GMT -8
Some fans need to remember that it is getting harder and harder to lure P5 schools here. We seem to be able to get Pac-12 schools to sign up, but outside of that, not much. And it's no wonder that this is true. There isn't much in it for a P5 school to come to San Diego. Some will invite us to play there on a single game basis, but that's about all. Who can blame them? The only thing left for us to do is beat the schools who will play us. And we need to dominate the softies from out own conference, schools such as New Mexico and Hawaii.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 20, 2015 22:07:47 GMT -8
What can I say. Some people just don't get it. We should definitely get some BIG XII schools on the schedule since that seems to be the only P5 conference we have a small chance of joining someday. It would be a good litmus test for both SDSU and the BIG XII schools. We've been thru this so many times. What would be their incentive to come to SD? They can schedule Texas El Paso for an easy win. They can go to Salt Lake City or Boulder and get a much better payday. And, coming here would mean they would have to have us there. Why is their advantage with that? And, we present the possibility of upsetting a Texas Tech for example. It is increasingly difficult for SDSU to get games. Credit Sterk with the Pac 12 upgrades coming. They have alumni here and can travel here relatively easily, less so with Big 12 teams. I'm not complaining about our OOC schedule. I love the upcoming games with the PAC 12.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 20, 2015 22:28:38 GMT -8
Looking forward to the next 8 years we have the following home & home agreements with the PAC schools. That's a huge deal since these schools play a 9 game conference schedule.
2015 & 2016 Cal 2017 & 2018 ASU 2019 & 2020 UCLA 2021& 2022 Zona
if the P5 adopts a rule that they only play P5 OOC games were screwed.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 21, 2015 10:06:38 GMT -8
A verbal representation of your graph. Both of which totally ignore three decades of ineptitude which preceded the modest gains of the last several years. And of course now we should be scheduling the blue bloods on CFB, with no issue, on the reg, gotcha. Scheduling them regularly? Hell effing yes. (Scheduling =/= PLAYING them regularly.)
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 21, 2015 10:10:37 GMT -8
I would like to see us schedule some BIG XII schools home & home as well but continue to focus primarily on the PAC 12 schools. Particularly easy travel destinations such as Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, UCLA, USC and Stanford. the point of the back and forth is that some see H&Hs with BigXII schools like Texas Tech, Baylor and Oklahoma St as lesser opponents along with Pac-12 members Arizona, Arizona St. & Cal as small time ... these schools just don't do it for some fans who think we ought to be scheduling Texas, Oklahoma & USC -- even if we have to accept 2:1's to get them at the Q Trust me on this. TT, Baylor and Okie State would never result in media pub speculating whether SDSU might possibly sell out Qualcomm for the first time in its history. OTOH, Alabama, Michigan, USC or the like would. Think small, BE small.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 21, 2015 10:11:30 GMT -8
the point of the back and forth is that some see H&Hs with BigXII schools like Texas Tech, Baylor and Oklahoma St as lesser opponents along with Pac-12 members Arizona, Arizona St. & Cal as small time ... these schools just don't do it for some fans who think we ought to be scheduling Texas, Oklahoma & USC -- even if we have to accept 2:1's to get them at the Q What can I say. Some people just don't get it. We should definitely get some BIG XII schools on the schedule since that seems to be the only P5 conference we have a small chance of joining someday. It would be a good litmus test for both SDSU and the BIG XII schools. Agree 100% with this notion too.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 21, 2015 10:17:46 GMT -8
Looking forward to the next 8 years we have the following home & home agreements with the PAC schools. That's a huge deal since these schools play a 9 game conference schedule. 2015 & 2016 Cal 2017 & 2018 ASU 2019 & 2020 UCLA 2021& 2022 Zona if the P5 adopts a rule that they only play P5 OOC games were screwed. I'll love it if we actually WIN some of those. However, as I type we have a 21-game losing streak against P-12 teams not named Up-the-Wazzu. And since UTW is not one of the four schools you mention, color me unexcited to play them.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Apr 21, 2015 10:49:41 GMT -8
Looking forward to the next 8 years we have the following home & home agreements with the PAC schools. That's a huge deal since these schools play a 9 game conference schedule. 2015 & 2016 Cal 2017 & 2018 ASU 2019 & 2020 UCLA 2021& 2022 Zona if the P5 adopts a rule that they only play P5 OOC games were screwed. I'll love it if we actually WIN some of those. However, as I type we have a 21-game losing streak against P-12 teams not named Up-the-Wazzu. And since UTW is not one of the four schools you mention, color me unexcited to play them. Excitement is anticipating the unexpected. I will be very excited to be in Berkeley on Sept. 12 to see us try once again. One of these years it's going to happen.
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Post by myownwords on Apr 21, 2015 11:36:11 GMT -8
I'll love it if we actually WIN some of those. However, as I type we have a 21-game losing streak against P-12 teams not named Up-the-Wazzu. And since UTW is not one of the four schools you mention, color me unexcited to play them. Excitement is anticipating the unexpected. I will be very excited to be in Berkeley on Sept. 12 to see us try once again. One of these years it's going to happen. And one of these years an Iceland-sized meteor will strike Earth.
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