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Post by pseudoaztec on Jan 25, 2015 10:30:42 GMT -8
Reality is that we just got done with the toughest stretch of our MBB schedule. 2-1 in elevation. We WERE the underdogs last night. CSU shots lights out early (normally something like 33% from 3pt range). Hard to game plan for something that goes against the season long tendencies of your opponent.
There are always going to be negatives if that's what you are looking for. These are young men who are still growing mentally and physically. They are going to make mistakes and have lapses in good judgment. But, lack of effort is inexcusable. I choose not to name names. I'm sure the coaching staff will address that issue.
On the positive side...our schedule is in our favor down the stretch. We will likely not be ranked by the end of conference play. To me, that doesn't matter squat. Think back to that UConn team that beat us in the NCAA a couple of years ago. They were not a high seed in the tournament and were not highly ranked going into the tournament. BUT, they got hot at the right time and rode the momentum to a national championship. Not predicting any NC, but I am predicting that come late February this team will be hitting their stride. We shall see.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 25, 2015 10:49:42 GMT -8
Reality is that we just got done with the toughest stretch of our MBB schedule. 2-1 in elevation. We WERE the underdogs last night. CSU shots lights out early (normally something like 33% from 3pt range). Hard to game plan for something that goes against the season long tendencies of your opponent. There are always going to be negatives if that's what you are looking for. These are young men who are still growing mentally and physically. They are going to make mistakes and have lapses in good judgment. But, lack of effort is inexcusable. I choose not to name names. I'm sure the coaching staff will address that issue. On the positive side...our schedule is in our favor down the stretch. We will likely not be ranked by the end of conference play. To me, that doesn't matter squat. Think back to that UConn team that beat us in the NCAA a couple of years ago. They were not a high seed in the tournament and were not highly ranked going into the tournament. BUT, they got hot at the right time and rode the momentum to a national championship. Not predicting any NC, but I am predicting that come late February this team will be hitting their stride. We shall see. The U-cons did the same thing last season. They were left for dead until they won their conf. tourney and then went all the way!
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Post by aztecsfuturefinal4 on Jan 25, 2015 12:13:36 GMT -8
weren't they a 3 seed?
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Jan 25, 2015 12:34:08 GMT -8
Yes, they were... but many had argued that they had been "over-seeded" because their poll rankings at the time weren't consistent with a 3 seed. Their play on the court justified the decision of the seeding committee... Moral of the story: Ranking in the polls is not necessarily the most significant indicator... peaking and playing well at the right time might be.
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Post by namssa on Jan 25, 2015 12:43:35 GMT -8
The good news is that is two games in the row where we scored in the 70s and were shooting well. Looks like the offense has finally come around. If the offense continues the way it has we will be in very good shape and should win the MWC and have a good shot at making a run of wins in the tournament. I tell you if we can shoot the way we have the last two games we can beat anyone in the nation the way our defense plays.
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Post by aztecsfuturefinal4 on Jan 25, 2015 13:00:59 GMT -8
Yes, they were... but many had argued that they had been "over-seeded" because their poll rankings at the time weren't consistent with a 3 seed. Their play on the court justified the decision of the seeding committee... Moral of the story: Ranking in the polls is not necessarily the most significant indicator... peaking and playing well at the right time might be. Big East coast biased
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Jan 25, 2015 13:09:33 GMT -8
Yes, they were... but many had argued that they had been "over-seeded" because their poll rankings at the time weren't consistent with a 3 seed. Their play on the court justified the decision of the seeding committee... Moral of the story: Ranking in the polls is not necessarily the most significant indicator... peaking and playing well at the right time might be. Big East coast biased True, but at least in that case, it seems the bias had some basis in fact.
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Post by northcountymike on Jan 25, 2015 13:10:37 GMT -8
Again, must we always have the same type of thread after a loss? Who are we trying to console? Ourselves? "I'm not worried, this team will gel by the time March rolls around....I've seen a lot of positives, etc." Personally, I'd much rather see an ugly win than a morale/confidence-building loss. No one is watching what type of "progress" our team has made other than our petty fan base. Not the NCAA, CBS, ESPN, USA Today, the AP, coaches, etc.
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Post by aztech on Jan 25, 2015 13:22:15 GMT -8
The good news is that is two games in the row where we scored in the 70s and were shooting well. Looks like the offense has finally come around. If the offense continues the way it has we will be in very good shape and should win the MWC and have a good shot at making a run of wins in the tournament. I tell you if we can shoot the way we have the last two games we can beat anyone in the nation the way our defense plays. I hope our offensive resurgence doesn't affect out defense in the long run. We were the #3 defensive team in the nation and it sure didn't look it last night. The Rams do have a lot of upperclassmen, but they're slow. Hutson better go back to the chalkboard.
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Post by dtay2004 on Jan 25, 2015 13:51:17 GMT -8
Let's see -Winston, Chol and Quinn played like $#!+. -we gave up 70+ points in regulation for the 1st time all year -shot 53% from the free throw line
And we still almost won a very tough road game vs a good hot team that was on fire from 3
There's alot of positive to take away from this game, the offence is starting to find its way
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Post by csfoster on Jan 25, 2015 13:56:36 GMT -8
Let's see -Winston, Chol and Quinn played like $#!+. -we gave up 70+ points in regulation for the 1st time all year -shot 53% from the free throw line And we still almost won a very tough road game vs a good hot team that was on fire from 3 There's alot of positive to take away from this game, the offence is starting to find its way A realist.
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Post by sdsustoner on Jan 25, 2015 17:56:22 GMT -8
The good news is that is two games in the row where we scored in the 70s and were shooting well. Looks like the offense has finally come around. If the offense continues the way it has we will be in very good shape and should win the MWC and have a good shot at making a run of wins in the tournament. I tell you if we can shoot the way we have the last two games we can beat anyone in the nation the way our defense plays. I hope our offensive resurgence doesn't affect out defense in the long run. We were the #3 defensive team in the nation and it sure didn't look it last night. The Rams do have a lot of upperclassmen, but they're slow. Hutson better go back to the chalkboard. Crisp passing without many dribbles makes up for that. When you're standing upright and out of your stance, you're going to make other teams look quicker than they really are. I am glad the last two games our shooting has looked good.
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Post by sdcoug on Jan 26, 2015 15:26:29 GMT -8
Agree with your post, except for the part about not being ranked. If we win our next 2 we'll be exactly right back to where we were before the CSU game. We'll continue to inch up the charts because even though we lose, so do most other teams.
The reality is Saturday's game really didn't negatively impact us. All it did is elevate CSU, which is fine. They're now ranked in the coaches poll, and are #26 in the AP. We're still "others receiving votes".
Our RPI is #27; Kenpom has us at #26 (we were #32 prior to AF & #24 prior to CSU). So we dropped a whopping 2 places. Lunardi continues to have us as a #7 seed in Portland (facing UA with a win). We didn't drop 1 spot. CSU went from being a #11 (play-in) team to #10 seed. Wyoming from #12 to #13. So, despite the loss we're a) still ranked virtually the same in every ranking out there; b) CSU moved up due to their "signature win" over us; and c) Wyoming is still in the mix.
We beat CSU & Wyoming at home, and don't lose more than 2 more road games (e.g. NM & maybe BSU) we'll be ranked no worse than we are today, and potentially higher (depending on how everything falls out).
IMO, we'll end up a 6 seed.
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Post by csfoster on Jan 26, 2015 15:53:06 GMT -8
Agree with your post, except for the part about not being ranked. If we win our next 2 we'll be exactly right back to where we were before the CSU game. We'll continue to inch up the charts because even though we lose, so do most other teams. The reality is Saturday's game really didn't negatively impact us. All it did is elevate CSU, which is fine. They're now ranked in the coaches poll, and are #26 in the AP. We're still "others receiving votes". Our RPI is #27; Kenpom has us at #26 (we were #32 prior to AF & #24 prior to CSU). So we dropped a whopping 2 places. Lunardi continues to have us as a #7 seed in Portland (facing UA with a win). We didn't drop 1 spot. CSU went from being a #11 (play-in) team to #10 seed. Wyoming from #12 to #13. So, despite the loss we're a) still ranked virtually the same in every ranking out there; b) CSU moved up due to their "signature win" over us; and c) Wyoming is still in the mix. We beat CSU & Wyoming at home, and don't lose more than 2 more road games (e.g. NM & maybe BSU) we'll be ranked no worse than we are today, and potentially higher (depending on how everything falls out). IMO, we'll end up a 6 seed. At worse. More likely 4th or 5th seed.
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