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Post by sdsuballer on Jan 24, 2015 21:28:26 GMT -8
Poor free throw shooting has finally caught up to the program. AQ and JJ could have put us ahead to make it a different game. We have seen it the last two year in big game when we need a critical free throw to go in, we just cant make them. Free throws have cause us to lose games against AZ, Cin, FSU, and CSU this season. Im not saying we would have won all four put we could have at least two of those games. We need to be in the 70% range as a team if we are ever going to play in the final four.
9-17 52% SDSU 17-22 77.3% CSU
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Post by bearfoot on Jan 24, 2015 21:31:31 GMT -8
THe game is 40 minutes long, and there are 100's of plays in a game, so missing FT at the end is not why we lost.
We lost because they shot the lights out early in the 1st half.
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Post by richpjr on Jan 24, 2015 21:32:20 GMT -8
That is probably what is the most frustrating thing to watch about this team. If the other team shoots lights out like CSU did, you tip your hat to them. But when you miss so many "free" points, it just kills me as that is giving a game away.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 21:33:46 GMT -8
I've said it a thousand times. FTs will cost us games. 60% as a team is gawd awful/
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Post by MarshallU on Jan 24, 2015 21:33:44 GMT -8
After loses there should be a 12 hour cooling off period for posting.
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Post by aztecfury on Jan 24, 2015 21:34:10 GMT -8
We all know jj is horrible with free throws, but it's just really disappointing when one of our best "shooters" Quinn is under 65% from the line.
No, I don't think we really need to be in the 70% range because most of the time we draw more fouls than we commit. It would be great but its never happening.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 21:35:03 GMT -8
Arizona game in Maui as well. It was our atrocious 1st half defense, bad calls by the refs, poor offense, and free throws tonight. Plenty of reasons why we lost, but those 2 misses by JJ when we were down by 1 are simply unforgivable from our senior glue guy leader.
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Post by dougp on Jan 24, 2015 21:39:17 GMT -8
Free throws need to be made in close games, and we lost another one due to our inept peformance at the charity strip. It's mind boggeling how many of our guys are just flat out terrible FT shooters.
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Post by dougp on Jan 24, 2015 21:40:22 GMT -8
Arizona game in Maui as well. It was our atrocious 1st half defense, bad calls by the refs, poor offense, and free throws tonight. Plenty of reasons why we lost, but those 2 misses by JJ when we were down by 1 are simply unforgivable from our senior glue guy leader. It's a shame because he had a very good night up to that point.
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Post by jdaztec on Jan 24, 2015 21:40:37 GMT -8
I don't know why other teams almost always shoot a higher FT %....?
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Post by aztecfred on Jan 24, 2015 21:42:01 GMT -8
Been going on for years!
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Post by aztecvatar on Jan 24, 2015 21:44:15 GMT -8
when they're 3 point shooting percentage is better than our free throw shooting percentage, you know we're f****d.
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Post by aztech on Jan 24, 2015 23:46:17 GMT -8
I don't know why other teams almost always shoot a higher FT %....? I've thought about that a lot. I think the other teams allow their players to have access to their arenas if they don't have a practice facility. Our guys can't use Viejas other than for team practices, Peterson is now a volleyball center and the ARC is not a players only gym. Aren't we the only school that has to pay to play in their own campus arena? Ridiculous.
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Post by northcountymike on Jan 25, 2015 1:25:42 GMT -8
THe game is 40 minutes long, and there are 100's of plays in a game, so missing FT at the end is not why we lost. We lost because they shot the lights out early in the 1st half. I'm sorry, but I think this is complete bull$#!+. How many times are we going to "defend" a s#!++y performance at the line? Night after night, it never gets any better. Yup, the game is 40 minutes long but we got within one point after CSU "shot the lights out" in the first half. Missing free throws also doesn't allow us to set up our full-court press which can be very effective. Sure, CSU shot well, but missing our free throws hurts and are a big part of the "100's of plays in a game." They are just as important as a turnover, foul, etc. Stop giving our free throw shooting a pass.
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Post by northcountymike on Jan 25, 2015 1:29:10 GMT -8
After loses there should be a 12 hour cooling off period for posting. Why? So we can all post the obligatory "regardless of the loss, I'm proud of the team. They are making progress" thread?
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Jan 25, 2015 1:35:18 GMT -8
After loses there should be a 12 hour cooling off period for posting. Why? So we can all post the obligatory "regardless of the loss, I'm proud of the team. They are making progress" thread? Those are preferable to the "Fire Fisher!" and "So and so should transfer" threads we get from our resident trolls and assholes...
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Post by northcountymike on Jan 25, 2015 1:39:26 GMT -8
Why? So we can all post the obligatory "regardless of the loss, I'm proud of the team. They are making progress" thread? Those are preferable to the "Fire Fisher!" and "So and so should transfer" threads we get from our resident trolls and assholes... Agreed. Luckily, I'd probably keep those opinions to myself. Because, after all, message boards are all about togetherness.
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Post by oregonaztec on Jan 25, 2015 6:52:08 GMT -8
Poor free throw shooting has finally caught up to the program. AQ and JJ could have put us ahead to make it a different game. We have seen it the last two year in big game when we need a critical free throw to go in, we just cant make them. Free throws have cause us to lose games against AZ, Cin, FSU, and CSU this season. Im not saying we would have won all four put we could have at least two of those games. We need to be in the 70% range as a team if we are ever going to play in the final four. 9-17 52% SDSU 17-22 77.3% CSU 52% at the line for a player is poor. For a whole team, that is just pathetic.
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Post by legkick on Jan 25, 2015 8:25:59 GMT -8
Free throw shooting was a factor, but not the factor. You must look at the game holistically.
When you do, you have to at least consider that the very poor defense, particularly on Avila, was the primary factor for the loss, at least from a negative perspective. You could alternatively give credit to CSU for shooting lights out on threes to start, including ones that were reasonably guarded.
State scored 73 points; that wins every game they've played this year (in regulation, they had 67 at end of BYU reg), except last night.
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Post by danloc09 on Jan 25, 2015 8:58:27 GMT -8
After loses there should be a 12 hour cooling off period for posting. Why? So we can all post the obligatory "regardless of the loss, I'm proud of the team. They are making progress" thread? We can criticize without being stupid. So far I've seen "Pope should start at SG", "Shep should be benched", "Shep is a dissapointment", "Why dont we recruit skilled big men", and "free throws are why we lost." Do better.
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