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Post by aztecbball12 on Dec 21, 2014 13:47:36 GMT -8
These are probably the finest group of young men I have had the honor of knowing. They work their butts off on and off the court almost 365 days a year. They are physically and mentally exhausted most of the time. When they aren't playing well they are the first to acknowledge it and the first to come down on themselves. You are all entitled to your opinions and this is a place to express them. I am also well aware that part of doing what they do opens them up to this kind of public criticism.... However, I would ask you all to think before you sit behind your computers and slice and dice a player. Believe me when I tell you they know when they need to step up their games. What they do out there in front of a huge crowd on national TV is not as easy as some of you seem to think.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Dec 21, 2014 14:17:15 GMT -8
The players shouldn't be on forums like this where just a few loud mouth, prolific, athletically challenged, non-athletes have their say. They drown out the vast majority of folks here that do appreciate the players, offer support and the occasional basic critique, responsibly.
Those few don't represent the vast majority of Aztec fans that appreciate what Coach Fisher and these fine young men have given us.
Signed, just another Aztec4Life
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on Dec 21, 2014 14:22:24 GMT -8
What they said!
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Post by 91aztec on Dec 21, 2014 14:29:48 GMT -8
Concur, well stated. They play hard until the last whistle whether they are ahead or behind, testament to their character and coaching. It is also so refreshing not read about SDSU student athletes in the newspaper unless it's sports related. The vast majority are excellent ambassadors to our school on and off the field/court.
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Post by oldie on Dec 21, 2014 15:13:49 GMT -8
no doubt. I have met several players (6) when they came to speak to grade school kids. TERRIFIC role models. perfect examples of how college athletes should represent their school and themselves.
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Post by smoketree on Dec 21, 2014 15:41:15 GMT -8
Remember it's not very long ago, that every season we knew it was inevitable that one or more of our players would either get suspended or even arrested. The coaching staff is being much more selective and it is paying off.
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Post by 84aztec96 on Dec 21, 2014 15:48:25 GMT -8
Excellent post. Every fan should read!
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Post by Hank on Dec 21, 2014 16:10:23 GMT -8
Word. Go Aztecs!
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Post by sleepy on Dec 21, 2014 16:30:32 GMT -8
Every time I get frustrated with them, I always remind myself of the one time I happened to be on the same plane home with the team from Colorado after a close loss a few seasons back. Just a typical crowded cattle-call SWA plane. No frills. Fairly late arriving back home. Dead quiet and exhausted, with one guy getting checked by Tom Abdenour to make sure his knee wasn't going to puff up to the size of the Goodyear blimp. I sat and watched them wait at Lindbergh to gather their equipment late that night, then a bus back to campus, then maybe home -- assuming Fish didn't herd them into some video room that late at night to be reminded of how they blew it back in Colorado.
It's not the easy gig we seem to think, where we just press the remote and POOF! -- instant entertainment on the wide-screen, or rolling into Viejas with a heaping plate of Belinda's best after a couple of cold ones at Oggi's. For both the players -- who also carry a class-load -- and the staff, it's a true grind. It's not just the neat package we are presented with: cheerleaders, dancers, bands, kettle corn, etc.
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Post by aztecttcas on Dec 21, 2014 17:21:07 GMT -8
Great OP. We love the players. We don't qUestion their heart or drive. For me I question Fisher and we should stop with treating him like he's not capable of making mistakes. Kell is not a PG. He's doing the best he can. Shep was not a pg. He started a hobbled Shelton instead of Green. There's alot more lineup mistakes. Mind you it was Hutson who drew up the 1-3-1 vs. UNM not Fish.
Fish is great we all know this. But I place any criticism as little as it may be on him. Not the players.
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Post by gocoaztec on Dec 21, 2014 17:27:56 GMT -8
Agree with the OP. Win or lose, the kids play hard and make us proud to be Aztecs!
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Post by adammclane on Dec 21, 2014 19:39:51 GMT -8
OP +500
Love the people we have representing SDSU right now.
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Post by merkarrand on Dec 21, 2014 19:54:17 GMT -8
Positive criticism does a lot of good...A soft enabling approach kills incentive
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Dec 21, 2014 20:05:14 GMT -8
Positive criticism does a lot of good...A soft enabling approach kills incentive Positive criticism, yes... not the kind of throw-em-under-the-bus "So and so should transfer out" crap we get way too much of from a host of d-bag posters around here. I, for one, love the way these guys bust their butts playing hard to the end even when they fall short. The level of thinly veiled hate I see in far too many posts ticks me off.
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Post by biotec on Dec 21, 2014 20:12:10 GMT -8
People are getting way too worked up about the negative posts. Check any comment section on the internet and you'll see a bunch of angry people. Internet people are not happy.
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Dec 21, 2014 20:18:15 GMT -8
People are getting way too worked up about the negative posts. Check any comment section on the internet and you'll see a bunch of angry people. Internet people are not happy. "But... but... but... Everyone ELSE is doing it!" is no more legitimate an excuse to be a d-bag for (presumably) adults on the internet than it was for us when we misbehaved as kids. The fact that way too many people use the perceived anonymity of the internet to turn off all their filters and bleat out intentionally cruel rants like a drunken bully with Tourette's doesn't make it OK.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Dec 21, 2014 20:23:13 GMT -8
Positive criticism does a lot of good...A soft enabling approach kills incentive Soft enabling? Have you read some of the crap the loud few have written?
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Dec 21, 2014 20:24:36 GMT -8
People are getting way too worked up about the negative posts. Check any comment section on the internet and you'll see a bunch of angry people. Internet people are not happy. These are our guys, if we don't support them against the vitriol, who will?
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Post by biotec on Dec 21, 2014 20:27:31 GMT -8
People are getting way too worked up about the negative posts. Check any comment section on the internet and you'll see a bunch of angry people. Internet people are not happy. "But... but... but... Everyone ELSE is doing it!" is no more legitimate an excuse to be a d-bag for (presumably) adults on the internet than it was for us when we misbehaved as kids. The fact that way too many people use the perceived anonymity of the internet to turn off all their filters and bleat out intentionally cruel rants like a drunken bully with Tourette's doesn't make it OK. I'm not saying it's okay. I'm just saying that the crucifixion of our players is not just a bunch of Aztecmesa a-holes, it's just a reflection of how a subset of people really feel in life. And so, it's unrealistic to think a forum of Aztec fans would behave differently than any other set of people.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Dec 21, 2014 20:33:08 GMT -8
"But... but... but... Everyone ELSE is doing it!" is no more legitimate an excuse to be a d-bag for (presumably) adults on the internet than it was for us when we misbehaved as kids. The fact that way too many people use the perceived anonymity of the internet to turn off all their filters and bleat out intentionally cruel rants like a drunken bully with Tourette's doesn't make it OK. I'm not saying it's okay. I'm just saying that the crucifixion of our players is not just a bunch of Aztecmesa a-holes, it's just a reflection of how a subset of people really feel in life. And so, it's unrealistic to think a forum of Aztec fans would behave differently than any other set of people. So a thread to show support from the Aztec family needs to be countered? The vitriol has been published in these pages, this is a response to those loud, repetitive few.
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