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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 22:01:56 GMT -8
He can't see well in his right eye still and is playing better in all categories except for 3 pointers(which you do need good eyes for lol) Is this writer crazy? What do you think? And which team would Kawhi be a good fit for if he is traded or another team offers more in Free Agency than Spurs want to pay? If he was added to the Clippers would that be a good fit? I think it would help Griffin alot. Maybe trade a #1 pick , Barnes and DeAndre Jordan for Kawhi?(can you believe Jordan makes $11.4 MIL) Clippers need defense plus then we can deal with LA Disaster Freeways and go watch him. www.rantsports.com/nba/2014/11/21/san-antonio-spurs-should-strongly-consider-trading-kawhi-leonard/
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Post by azteccc on Nov 23, 2014 23:24:52 GMT -8
I am probably minority opinion around these parts, and I don't know that any serious analyst has suggested the Spurs are considering moving him... But I don't think Kawhi's value will ever be higher than it is right now. Would you bet on Kawhi winning another Finals MVP over the course of his career? I wouldn't. And that isn't to knock the talent - the Spurs are going to need to shed cap space at some point, keep relying on the hometown discounts from major players, or surround Kawhi with marginal pieces. I don't know if his game would hold up to being the focal point of an offense. If they could get anything near a top 6 pick and a starter for Leonard I would think the Spurs would strongly consider it, and I think they'd be foolish to not accept.
Though this is all unfounded speculation and all signs point to him staying a Spur for a long time, which I'm really happy about.
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Post by aztecdan8 on Nov 24, 2014 0:49:04 GMT -8
I am probably minority opinion around these parts, and I don't know that any serious analyst has suggested the Spurs are considering moving him... But I don't think Kawhi's value will ever be higher than it is right now. Would you bet on Kawhi winning another Finals MVP over the course of his career? I wouldn't. And that isn't to knock the talent - the Spurs are going to need to shed cap space at some point, keep relying on the hometown discounts from major players, or surround Kawhi with marginal pieces. I don't know if his game would hold up to being the focal point of an offense. If they could get anything near a top 6 pick and a starter for Leonard I would think the Spurs would strongly consider it, and I think they'd be foolish to not accept. Though this is all unfounded speculation and all signs point to him staying a Spur for a long time, which I'm really happy about. All I know is Popovich loved him before he got to the Spurs, loves him more now, and has said that he hasn't even begun to show how great he will be- Pop says that once the Big 3 start to retire, Kawhi will take on an expanded role and will be one of the top players in the NBA. By that statement, I translate that to mean a top 10 or top 15 player. No way they trade Kawhi, you don't trade humble, hard working, driven, low maintenance NBA superstars. You build teams around them.
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 24, 2014 6:45:02 GMT -8
I am probably minority opinion around these parts, and I don't know that any serious analyst has suggested the Spurs are considering moving him... But I don't think Kawhi's value will ever be higher than it is right now. Would you bet on Kawhi winning another Finals MVP over the course of his career? I wouldn't. And that isn't to knock the talent - the Spurs are going to need to shed cap space at some point, keep relying on the hometown discounts from major players, or surround Kawhi with marginal pieces. I don't know if his game would hold up to being the focal point of an offense. If they could get anything near a top 6 pick and a starter for Leonard I would think the Spurs would strongly consider it, and I think they'd be foolish to not accept. Though this is all unfounded speculation and all signs point to him staying a Spur for a long time, which I'm really happy about. Kawhi is going to be the face of the Spurs Do you expect them not to make another Finals in the next decade?
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Post by danloc09 on Nov 24, 2014 6:51:02 GMT -8
I am probably minority opinion around these parts, and I don't know that any serious analyst has suggested the Spurs are considering moving him... But I don't think Kawhi's value will ever be higher than it is right now. Would you bet on Kawhi winning another Finals MVP over the course of his career? I wouldn't. And that isn't to knock the talent - the Spurs are going to need to shed cap space at some point, keep relying on the hometown discounts from major players, or surround Kawhi with marginal pieces. I don't know if his game would hold up to being the focal point of an offense. If they could get anything near a top 6 pick and a starter for Leonard I would think the Spurs would strongly consider it, and I think they'd be foolish to not accept. Though this is all unfounded speculation and all signs point to him staying a Spur for a long time, which I'm really happy about. They've done a really good job of putting themselves in a position to not have to shed cap space.
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Post by bschmurda on Nov 24, 2014 8:16:34 GMT -8
He can't see well in his right eye still and is playing better in all categories except for 3 pointers(which you do need good eyes for lol) Is this writer crazy? What do you think? And which team would Kawhi be a good fit for if he is traded or another team offers more in Free Agency than Spurs want to pay? If he was added to the Clippers would that be a good fit? I think it would help Griffin alot. Maybe trade a #1 pick , Barnes and DeAndre Jordan for Kawhi?(can you believe Jordan makes $11.4 MIL) Clippers need defense plus then we can deal with LA Disaster Freeways and go watch him. www.rantsports.com/nba/2014/11/21/san-antonio-spurs-should-strongly-consider-trading-kawhi-leonard/If Clips needed defense they wouldn't move Barnes and Jordan... The Clips need a better 3rd option than Reddick and a deeper bench
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Post by myownwords on Nov 24, 2014 8:29:01 GMT -8
Writers are a commodity. If they don't generate readers, they're toast...instead of grist
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 9:07:11 GMT -8
Kawhi is one of the best defensive players in the NBA but his offensive game is still not at an all-star caliber level. He'll get a max deal but personally I do not think he's good enough to build a team around. I realize I'm going to get crucified for saying this.
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Post by missiontrails on Nov 24, 2014 9:18:30 GMT -8
Kawhi is one of the best defensive players in the NBA but his offensive game is still not at an all-star caliber level. He'll get a max deal but personally I do not think he's good enough to build a team around. I realize I'm going to get crucified for saying this. You may very well be correct......if you are judging his offense on what the NBA considers all star caliber. As far as the Spurs system is concerned, his offense is just right. Personality-wise, I don't see him as being a team focal point, but I don't think the Spurs particularly care (see Duncan, Tim).
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Nov 24, 2014 9:32:09 GMT -8
What this writer is really saying...
"Please trade Kawhi to the Knicks or the Nets...PLEEEEEZE!!!...
...we'll happily give you a few draft picks for him...pretty PLEEEEEZE!!!...
all the New York sports teams suck right now and I'm stuck writing about them...pretty PLEEEEEZE with a cherry on top!!!..."
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Nov 24, 2014 9:40:01 GMT -8
If the Clippers could somehow trade for Kawhi and keep their main pieces they'll win at least 1 ring. A good SF is the only hole on that team, and they're a good team even without a SF
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Post by mySTRAS on Nov 24, 2014 18:03:42 GMT -8
Kawhi is one of the best defensive players in the NBA but his offensive game is still not at an all-star caliber level. He'll get a max deal but personally I do not think he's good enough to build a team around. I realize I'm going to get crucified for saying this. Spot on. The potential for getting crucified reminds me of:
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Post by danloc09 on Nov 24, 2014 20:03:06 GMT -8
Kawhi is one of the best defensive players in the NBA but his offensive game is still not at an all-star caliber level. He'll get a max deal but personally I do not think he's good enough to build a team around. I realize I'm going to get crucified for saying this. I agree but the max he'll get isn't really a "max deal" in the sense that Carmelo's is. He'll get around what Ricky Rubio or Gordon Hayward got. And with the cap about to shoot up you can give him the max without having him be THE guy.
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Post by mySTRAS on Nov 24, 2014 20:07:02 GMT -8
Kawhi is one of the best defensive players in the NBA but his offensive game is still not at an all-star caliber level. He'll get a max deal but personally I do not think he's good enough to build a team around. I realize I'm going to get crucified for saying this. I agree but the max he'll get isn't really a "max deal" in the sense that Carmelo's is. He'll get around what Ricky Rubio or Gordon Hayward got. And with the cap about to shoot up you can give him the max without having him be THE guy. $15mm+/season... not bad work if you can get it!
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Post by danloc09 on Nov 24, 2014 20:10:34 GMT -8
I agree but the max he'll get isn't really a "max deal" in the sense that Carmelo's is. He'll get around what Ricky Rubio or Gordon Hayward got. And with the cap about to shoot up you can give him the max without having him be THE guy. $15mm+/season... not bad work if you can get it! I'll play for half that. I'm gritty.
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