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Post by HighNTight on Oct 30, 2014 20:55:14 GMT -8
Aztecs Men's Soccer "competes" in the Pac-12 ...
2014 1-7 (2 games remaining)
2013 2-6-2
2012 1-7-2
2011 4-5-1
2010 2-4-1
2009 3-4-3
2008 3-4-3
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Post by sdmotohead on Oct 30, 2014 21:16:15 GMT -8
Hell, he's doing better than our football team would if they were in the Sac12...oops, did I say that out loud?
Ok, before I get flamed this was meant as a joke.
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Post by mySTRAS on Oct 30, 2014 21:19:13 GMT -8
Aztecs Men's Soccer "competes" in the Pac-12 ... 2014 1-7 (2 games remaining) 2013 2-6-2 2012 1-7-2 2011 4-5-1 2010 2-4-1 2009 3-4-3 2008 3-4-3 Does he even earn a salary? |
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Post by montyismyhomie on Oct 30, 2014 21:29:53 GMT -8
Hell, he's doing better than our football team would if they were in the Sac12...oops, did I say that out loud? Ok, before I get flamed this was meant as a joke. By the sound of this board sometimes you would think he's doing better than Rocky right now. |
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Post by Frantic on Oct 31, 2014 5:39:04 GMT -8
Pac 12 is a tough conference. Only 6 teams compete, with 4 of them ranked in the Top 13 nationally.
Yet that begs the question of why SDSU can't be a national power? Just like with baseball, some of the best talent in the country is found within 100 miles of campus.
In the end neither sport has much fan support.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Oct 31, 2014 9:00:30 GMT -8
Pac 12 is a tough conference. Only 6 teams compete, with 4 of them ranked in the Top 13 nationally. Yet that begs the question of why SDSU can't be a national power? Just like with baseball, some of the best talent in the country is found within 100 miles of campus. In the end neither sport has much fan support. Actually, I think they are close. They have had a couple of heart breakers in the PAC and have beaten a number of ranked teams this year. |
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Post by Frantic on Oct 31, 2014 10:18:08 GMT -8
Pac 12 is a tough conference. Only 6 teams compete, with 4 of them ranked in the Top 13 nationally. Yet that begs the question of why SDSU can't be a national power? Just like with baseball, some of the best talent in the country is found within 100 miles of campus. In the end neither sport has much fan support. Actually, I think they are close. They have had a couple of heart breakers in the PAC and have beaten a number of ranked teams this year. I usually try to make one game a year. Unfortunately I didn't see them play this year so I don't know if we've lost heart breakers, but everyone knows soccer often involves games decided by just one goal. In looking at our schedule, it looks like we have two wins over opponents that were ranked at the time (Clemson and Denver, which are currently ranked #16 and #101 respectively). www.goaztecs.com/sports/m-soccer/sched/sdsu-m-soccer-sched.htmlFor what it's worth, the Aztecs are currently ranked #75 - below Cal St. Fullerton and Northridge and USD, among many others. www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d1 |
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Post by onelittleindian on Oct 31, 2014 10:32:22 GMT -8
I love it when people only talk about the smaller sports when it's negative stuff. #SuddenlyWereAllExperts
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Post by vision on Oct 31, 2014 10:42:16 GMT -8
Lev is doing great, especially with what he works with. They will not fire him until someone CARES about men's soccer....which will never happen. If someone at SDSU cared...they would give him a few resources.
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Post by fantaztec on Oct 31, 2014 15:59:24 GMT -8
What resources does he need that he isn't getting?
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Post by onelittleindian on Nov 1, 2014 10:23:24 GMT -8
This question is more legitimate in a larger sense in that if SDSU gets into the Pac-12, Big-12, <insert "upgraded" conference here>, are the fans content to be a bottom dweller in a bigger conference for likely a while in most sports just to be part of something bigger and better?
Since many of you seem to think that lack of winning is the main reason so many people come to games dressed as empty seats and losing will likely be the new norm if we went to a bigger conference.
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Post by HighNTight on Nov 1, 2014 10:47:11 GMT -8
This question is more legitimate in a larger sense in that if SDSU gets into the Pac-12, Big-12, <insert "upgraded" conference here>, are the fans content to be a bottom dweller in a bigger conference for likely a while in most sports just to be part of something bigger and better? Since many of you seem to think that lack of winning is the main reason so many people come to games dressed as empty seats and losing will likely be the new norm if we went to a bigger conference. I started this thread in the interests of seeing what kind of expectations and comments those here on AM would have regarding the one sport we are already part of a P5 conference in ... "lack of resources" "ranked competition" "close losses" "nobody cares about soccer" etc. I think you captured what I was seeing perfectly when you posed the question: "are the fans content to be a bottom dweller in a bigger conference for likely a while in most sports just to be part of something bigger and better?" |
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Nov 1, 2014 13:07:41 GMT -8
This squad has beaten three ranked teams this season. It is the curse of being in a highly competitive conference. Lev has done well here.
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Post by vision on Nov 3, 2014 15:04:13 GMT -8
What resources does he need that he isn't getting? Really? Are you seriously asking that? Because if you are, then you don't know anything about SDSU athletics or Pac12 athletics. Let's start at the beginning and just name a few: Coaching salaries. Team budget. recruiting dollars. Scholarships! Most Pac-12 school athletic department budgets are more than twice as much as that of SDSU, some are more than 3 times that of SDSU. |
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Post by fantaztec on Nov 3, 2014 21:22:28 GMT -8
Hmm, I'm not sure about that. Men's soccer is fully funded scholarship-wise. Recruiting budget only hampers you if you can't get to the events you need to get to. SDSU, in all sports, has a healthy budget for coaches to get where they need to get to evaluate players. Our men's soccer team always seems to have very highly touted players (with national team experience, highly ranked etc...) Whatsmore, our men's team has a TON of players from out of state, which costs the school more. Yet that doesn't seem to impact who we bring in.
Our overall athletic budget may not be what the pac-12 is, but how this impacts men's soccer is less clear. I look at the Big West teams, who are not even all fully funded in scholarships, have WAY less recruiting budgets and overall budgets, yet have 1, 2 and sometimes 3 teams in the top 25 and who advance into the NCAA tourney and win games. How are they able to do it with far less resources than SDSU?
I look at other teams at SDSU that compete and win games vs PAc-12 schools. Men's bball, women's soccer, softball, all do well vs pac-12 teams and other big 5 schools. How are they able to do it?
I think the "resources" line is thrown out easily, but when investigated, doesn't really hold up. The pac-12 is certainly a murderers row in men's soccer this year, no question. I think to expect to win the conference is a tall tall task. But to say resources keep us from being competitive doesn't hold up for me. But this year's team certainly has a lot of young talent, so I am hopeful good days are ahead. Go Aztecs!
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Post by missiontrails on Nov 3, 2014 23:13:28 GMT -8
Hmm, I'm not sure about that. Men's soccer is fully funded scholarship-wise. Recruiting budget only hampers you if you can't get to the events you need to get to. SDSU, in all sports, has a healthy budget for coaches to get where they need to get to evaluate players. Our men's soccer team always seems to have very highly touted players (with national team experience, highly ranked etc...) Whatsmore, our men's team has a TON of players from out of state, which costs the school more. Yet that doesn't seem to impact who we bring in. Our overall athletic budget may not be what the pac-12 is, but how this impacts men's soccer is less clear. I look at the Big West teams, who are not even all fully funded in scholarships, have WAY less recruiting budgets and overall budgets, yet have 1, 2 and sometimes 3 teams in the top 25 and who advance into the NCAA tourney and win games. How are they able to do it with far less resources than SDSU? I look at other teams at SDSU that compete and win games vs PAc-12 schools. Men's bball, women's soccer, softball, all do well vs pac-12 teams and other big 5 schools. How are they able to do it? I think the "resources" line is thrown out easily, but when investigated, doesn't really hold up. The pac-12 is certainly a murderers row in men's soccer this year, no question. I think to expect to win the conference is a tall tall task. But to say resources keep us from being competitive doesn't hold up for me. But this year's team certainly has a lot of young talent, so I am hopeful good days are ahead. Go Aztecs! A fair and balanced analysis. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 6:56:18 GMT -8
I think he SHOULD be on the hot seat. 16 wins in 8 seasons is NOT getting the job done.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 5, 2014 7:41:25 GMT -8
This question is more legitimate in a larger sense in that if SDSU gets into the Pac-12, Big-12, <insert "upgraded" conference here>, are the fans content to be a bottom dweller in a bigger conference for likely a while in most sports just to be part of something bigger and better? Since many of you seem to think that lack of winning is the main reason so many people come to games dressed as empty seats and losing will likely be the new norm if we went to a bigger conference. I think we'd end up like Utah - struggling at first and ending up around .500 for 3 or 4 years but building a stronger program that ends up in the top 1/3 of the conference in the long run. |
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Post by aztec4life18 on Dec 8, 2014 9:49:24 GMT -8
It takes more than just knowing x's and o's to coach a winning program. Player management is incredibly important. If players hate you, they won't play for you; and that my friend, is why the men's soccer team struggles.
I have known so many former players that say Lev has stripped them of their confidence and their love of the game.
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Post by aztech on Dec 8, 2014 16:50:36 GMT -8
This question is more legitimate in a larger sense in that if SDSU gets into the Pac-12, Big-12, <insert "upgraded" conference here>, are the fans content to be a bottom dweller in a bigger conference for likely a while in most sports just to be part of something bigger and better? Since many of you seem to think that lack of winning is the main reason so many people come to games dressed as empty seats and losing will likely be the new norm if we went to a bigger conference. I think we'd end up like Utah - struggling at first and ending up around .500 for 3 or 4 years but building a stronger program that ends up in the top 1/3 of the conference in the long run. They got better and better as their Pac 12 money allocation increased each year. Now they're full members. Which goes to show, former non-BCS schools know how to spend windfalls rather than take them for granted. The same applies for TCU, too. |
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