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Post by pbbroker on Oct 29, 2014 12:42:14 GMT -8
Boise State announced Tuesday that it would be providing full cost-of-attendance scholarships to its athletes if and when it is permitted by the NCAA.
The push for full cost-of-attendance scholarships has been part of the move for autonomy in the NCAA by the Power Five conferences. The conferences want greater flexibility to create their own rules within the NCAA when it comes to scholarships and other reforms.
While Boise State isn't a member of a Power Five conference, the school can keep up with any perceived advantages Power Five conference teams could have if they agree to offer full cost-of-attendance scholarships in the near future.
"Boise State is a proven program in the collegiate athletics landscape," Boise State athletic director Mark Coyle said in a statement. "Our intent is to provide the resources available not only for football, but for each of our 20 sports, to not only win conference championships but to compete with any program on a national level."
The Pac-12 also followed in the footsteps of the Big Ten this week in announcing that it would guarantee multi-year scholarships for athletes. The Big Ten announced the move earlier in October. It's expected that the other three Power Five conferences will follow suit as well as some other non-Power Five conferences.
“This fulfills a promise we made when we announced our agenda for reform earlier this year,” Washington State president Elson Floyd said in a statement. “These reforms assure better support for all our student-athletes, reinforce that academics come first, and address the financial and health needs of our students.”
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sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/boise-state-plans-to-offer-full-cost-of-attendance-scholarships-172015992.html
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Oct 29, 2014 12:48:11 GMT -8
The tilted MWC tv contract and bonus system bears more fruit. We'll figure out a way too compete with this but the cost will be hard to take.
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Post by azteccc on Oct 29, 2014 12:48:29 GMT -8
If Boise can afford it, so can we.
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Post by HighNTight on Oct 29, 2014 12:55:34 GMT -8
The estimated cost to SDSU with a $2800 annual stipend for 300 or so scholarship athletes would be an additional $850K to our annual budget.
We'll be able to absorb that cost and offer the stipend, but I imagine we'd like to put it off for as long as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 13:09:35 GMT -8
We'll follow suit
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Post by azteccc on Oct 29, 2014 13:16:47 GMT -8
Rahon T-rex'ing in the background of your GIF with Kawhi just laughing at the Jimmer (which, may I add, was simple foreshadowing of careers) is still amazing. |
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Post by standiego on Oct 29, 2014 13:32:46 GMT -8
Aztecs FB plays at Penn State in 2015 - money game - not sure how much ? Then we start playing PAC schools in away and home series , where no money for SDSU ?. Not sure if there is another money game coming after the Penn State game . Northern Ill ?
If we can not compete with BSU and other MW schools , then AD really needs to look at the FB program.
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Post by aztecsiggy on Oct 29, 2014 13:47:35 GMT -8
Aztecs FB plays at Penn State in 2015 - money game - not sure how much ? Then we start playing PAC schools in away and home series , where no money for SDSU ?. Not sure if there is another money game coming after the Penn State game . Northern Ill ? If we can not compete with BSU and other MW schools , then AD really needs to look at the FB program. Penn St. is going to be stacked next year. We are discovering UNC wasn't as good as the preseason polls indicated, and therefore perhaps we aren't either. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. |
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Post by mnico213 on Oct 29, 2014 14:48:15 GMT -8
Aztecs FB plays at Penn State in 2015 - money game - not sure how much ? Then we start playing PAC schools in away and home series , where no money for SDSU ?. Not sure if there is another money game coming after the Penn State game . Northern Ill ? If we can not compete with BSU and other MW schools , then AD really needs to look at the FB program. Penn St. is going to be stacked next year. We are discovering UNC wasn't as good as the preseason polls indicated, and therefore perhaps we aren't either. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Penn State is pulling in quite a recruiting class this year and Hackenberg looks like he will be playing on Sundays soon, but they still have major depth issues. Their offensive line has been terrible this year and they have no run game to speak of. They lost to a pretty terrible Michigan team and got killed by Northwestern. Anyways, not saying we will win or anything, but I don't expect them to be much, if at all, better than UNC this year. |
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Post by aztecsiggy on Oct 29, 2014 16:00:10 GMT -8
Penn St. is going to be stacked next year. We are discovering UNC wasn't as good as the preseason polls indicated, and therefore perhaps we aren't either. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Penn State is pulling in quite a recruiting class this year and Hackenberg looks like he will be playing on Sundays soon, but they still have major depth issues. Their offensive line has been terrible this year and they have no run game to speak of. They lost to a pretty terrible Michigan team and got killed by Northwestern. Anyways, not saying we will win or anything, but I don't expect them to be much, if at all, better than UNC this year. Similar to SDSU, Penn is a young team that will we coming into their own next year. Penn took tOSU to double overtime last week. Additionally, their recruiting classes the last 4 years have been better than I would have expected given what's happened there. Per rivals: 2014=24; 2013=43; 2012=51; 2011=35. Not too shabby. |
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Post by standiego on Oct 29, 2014 18:29:25 GMT -8
As noted BSU arranged the sweet TV deal with MW for extra TV money as they bailed on the move to BE/AAC .
2015 OOC games so far for Aztecs At CAL 9/12 At PENN STATE 9/26 . No return game so it is "Money Game" - not sure how much .? Plus do not see others on the schedule as we go to away and home with PAC schools and series with North IL.
Penn State is building up . Has a good QB so it will be a tough game into BIG territory . Believe CAL is also developing a good QB.
The stipends and other newer rules is something Sterk has known about and should be prepared for in 2015 ,so think it would be something that SDSU should announce it is doing also.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Oct 29, 2014 18:43:30 GMT -8
As noted BSU arranged the sweet TV deal with MW for extra TV money as they bailed on the move to BE/AAC . 2015 OOC games so far for Aztecs At CAL 9/12 At PENN STATE 9/26 . No return game so it is "Money Game" - not sure how much .? Plus do not see others on the schedule as we go to away and home with PAC schools and series with North IL. Penn State is building up . Has a good QB so it will be a tough game into BIG territory . Believe CAL is also developing a good QB. The stipends and other newer rules is something Sterk has known about and should be prepared for in 2015 ,so think it would be something that SDSU should announce it is doing also. Once recruits start asking about it on a regular basis I think SDSU will publicly announce its intentions to match the cost of tuition. Indeed it is something SDSU has known about and has been planing for. |
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Post by adammclane on Oct 30, 2014 7:07:58 GMT -8
Full cost of attendance at Boise State... Are they also going to reimburse for a lifetime of "Is that a community college?" interviews?  |
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Post by standiego on Oct 30, 2014 8:20:23 GMT -8
Recruiting battles are already going on between the Aztecs and BSU .... Would hope Sterk has planned for this will hopefully get approval as soon as possible and make a similar announcement if we are going to following BSU 's plan . Would have been considerate of BSU to give other schools the heads up (maybe they did ? ) . I do not think SDSU wants to wait for a recruit to ask the school . Either we are in or not .
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Post by HighNTight on Oct 30, 2014 8:37:07 GMT -8
No one (including Boise St.) in the NON-autonomous G5 will be able to offer the stipend until the issue is approved by the general D1 governance structure ... the earliest that can happen is April 2015.
Even the Pac-12, who approved the stipends earlier this month, will NOT be allowed to offer the stipends until approved in first meeting of the autonomous P5 governance structure in Jan 2015, which is made up of the 65 P5 teams and 15 student athletes for a total of 80 votes. If they decide not to take up the measure in January, then the Pac-12 will not be able to offer the stipend.
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Post by mnico213 on Oct 30, 2014 10:22:26 GMT -8
Penn State is pulling in quite a recruiting class this year and Hackenberg looks like he will be playing on Sundays soon, but they still have major depth issues. Their offensive line has been terrible this year and they have no run game to speak of. They lost to a pretty terrible Michigan team and got killed by Northwestern. Anyways, not saying we will win or anything, but I don't expect them to be much, if at all, better than UNC this year. Similar to SDSU, Penn is a young team that will we coming into their own next year. Penn took tOSU to double overtime last week. Additionally, their recruiting classes the last 4 years have been better than I would have expected given what's happened there. Per rivals: 2014=24; 2013=43; 2012=51; 2011=35. Not too shabby. I agree they are trending upwards and have some really good talent, but I think most of those classes were pulled up by some really good recruits and what they really lack is depth. I think they will still be a middle of the pack Big Ten team at best next year. Winning at State College would be great for the program and very impressive, but it's not going to be a top 25 win or anything IMO. |
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Post by standiego on Oct 30, 2014 11:19:06 GMT -8
HNT you are correct but in the recruiting game that goes on, while they are talking to the recruit, all the recruiter has to say is our school has agreed to the rules(even if they are not in affect yet or pending ) . While saying "the other school" has not .Do believe a recruiter will use all they can to their advantage stretching things their way . So would guess the PAC , BIG... schools will add it to their pitch and so will BSU . What % would you give it that the issues are passed .
We have to travel to PSU , our W-L record when traveling to P5 school has not been stellar . Their QB will have another year of experience and we will using one with not that much experience . Should be getting a decent check , has it been published ?
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Post by hbaztec on Oct 30, 2014 12:40:14 GMT -8
Rahon T-rex'ing in the background of your GIF with Kawhi just laughing at the Jimmer (which, may I add, was simple foreshadowing of careers) is still amazing. Love that gif Sent from my SM-G900V using proboards |
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Post by HighNTight on Oct 30, 2014 13:49:58 GMT -8
HNT you are correct but in the recruiting game that goes on, while they are talking to the recruit, all the recruiter has to say is our school has agreed to the rules(even if they are not in affect yet or pending ) . While saying "the other school" has not .Do believe a recruiter will use all they can to their advantage stretching things their way . So would guess the PAC , BIG... schools will add it to their pitch and so will BSU . What % would you give it that the issues are passed . We have to travel to PSU , our W-L record when traveling to P5 school has not been stellar . Their QB will have another year of experience and we will using one with not that much experience . Should be getting a decent check , has it been published ? any, and I would think every recruiter from the MWC to the B1G has rehearsed what to say if asked about the stipends or any other issue raised by the Pac-12 (medical coverage, 4 year scholarship, etc.) The stipend issue will probably not be directly addressed for a couple of years. In the short term a committee will be formed to determine the effects of the stipend on competition as well as the appropriate formula to determine the COA above what the scholarship currently covers (tuition, books, fees, etc.). Disparity in COA/stipend amounts from conference to conference (and between teams within a conference) will need to be addressed before a vote to allow them can take place. It is also worth mentioning that a flat rate stipend would probably face legal challenges from those schools for which the rate may be too high or too low. One example of a problem with the issue is that: Boise St. estimates it's stipend to be $5300/athlete per year for some 225 scholarship athletes ($1.2M/yr) San Diego State estimates it's stipend to be $2800/athlete per year for 305 scholarship athletes ($850K/yr) Air Force already pays all its cadets a basic allowance while they attend the Academy whether they are athletes or not. Similar issues exist in the PAC-12 where the COA stipend at Washington St. is almost double the COA stipend at UCLA Edit: then there are the issues of the current formula that is being used to obtain the numbers here ... how often does it change? what is it indexed to? many more questions to answer before we jump in and start. |
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Post by standiego on Nov 1, 2014 10:54:58 GMT -8
Wonder how the BSU basketball player feels now after BSU's announcement is it full Multi year scholarship ? , after he had his scholarship pulled after the end of last year because he longer fit in their plans .
Believe MW has said it will allow each school to decide what new rules they choose to go along with not the conference . Do not know how much recruiting is going on now for FB but if we are in recruiting battles with BSU or others , it may not hurt to give some positive impression to recruits if we are thinking of adopting some of those rules .
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