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Post by Azthetic on Oct 27, 2014 20:51:20 GMT -8
Plus, Dodger fans don't brag about beating the Padres. That is both the strength and problem with the attitude of the Dodgers overall. The Dodger fans I know do. I was born and raised a Dodger fan. Beating Padres means very little. |
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Post by Azthetic on Oct 27, 2014 20:56:47 GMT -8
That is a weak, defeatist attitude. Dodgers are not in the World Series. Padres have been in one more recently than the Dodgers. Royals are there. Rays have won. It's not about money, it's about management. So you're saying Michigan $ gives their football team no advantage over ours. Got it..... Didn't say that. Please re-read. |
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Post by AzTex on Oct 27, 2014 20:56:51 GMT -8
By this point I have convinced myself that Hoke made a huge mistake when he left SDSU. If the guy had just had the sense to ask my advice, maybe he would not now be on the hot seat! You're probably right William. Hoke did make a mistake. But, it was a chance at his dream job. I'm sure he'd disappointed in the results of that decision. But, he would have regretted it the rest of his life if he hadn't given it a chance. My saying is " It's better to be disappointed than to have regrets." |
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Post by missiontrails on Oct 27, 2014 20:58:06 GMT -8
By this point I have convinced myself that Hoke made a huge mistake when he left SDSU. If the guy had just had the sense to ask my advice, maybe he would not now be on the hot seat! You're probably right William. Hoke did make a mistake. But, it was a chance at his dream job. I'm sure he'd disappointed in the results of that decision. But, he would have regretted it the rest of his life if he hadn't given it a chance. My saying is " It's better to be disappointed than to have regrets." Agreed. |
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Post by Azthetic on Oct 27, 2014 21:01:52 GMT -8
By this point I have convinced myself that Hoke made a huge mistake when he left SDSU. If the guy had just had the sense to ask my advice, maybe he would not now be on the hot seat! You're probably right William. Hoke did make a mistake. But, it was a chance at his dream job. I'm sure he'd disappointed in the results of that decision. But, he would have regretted it the rest of his life if he hadn't given it a chance. My saying is " It's better to be disappointed than to have regrets." Agree. Hindsight is 20/20. Grab them and go for it. Life is too short. |
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Post by missiontrails on Oct 27, 2014 21:04:57 GMT -8
The Dodger fans I know do. I was born and raised a Dodger fan. Beating Padres means very little. OK, would you be my friend then, replacing the ones I know who give me $#!+ basically every time the Dodgers win?  We're talking a few longtime friends and a few coworkers. Not to mention some of the lowlifes that drag themselves to Petco every time the Dodgers are in town. I'm not implying all (or even a significant percentage of) LA fans are this way, but some are true knuckle-draggers. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 7:12:34 GMT -8
That's my feeling too. I once obtained MY dream job. At least I thought it was. Unlike Brady is going to be, I wasn't fired but I might have been had I hung around long enough since after performing very well elsewhere to that point, I just was pretty mediocre in that position and my superiors didn't hesitate to let me know it. After quitting, I went into business for myself and after struggling for quite awhile, everything has worked out great. Hoke is obviously going through a terrible time and he knows he's not long for Ann Arbor. However, I'm certain that after struggling to get his career back in gear that just like me, he will be much better off down the road. My guess is that after a couple years as an NFL assistant, he will get another HC gig at a MAC school with far more potential than Ball State and that he will be successful there long term. See Jeff Bower at Southern Miss as an example. Oh and my apologies to those disappointed that I don't join them in relishing Hoke's failure at his dream job. How old were you when you left the job where you were having troubles? Hoke will turn 56 a week from today. Two years as an assistant somewhere else would make him 58. You make a good point. I was 20 years younger than Hoke. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 10:24:01 GMT -8
Hoke is only an old manifestation of OUR continuing problem. I hope the coach lands on his feet. His situation at Michigan is certainly more payback than he deserves for what any ambitious person would have done in his situation. Discussing him is irrelevant to our real issue, which is making The AZTEC job a dream gig. And time is running out for us.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 28, 2014 10:29:48 GMT -8
Hoke is only an old manifestation of OUR continuing problem. I hope the coach lands on his feet. His situation at Michigan is certainly more payback than he deserves for what any ambitious person would have done in his situation. Discussing him is irrelevant to our real issue, which is making The AZTEC job a dream gig. And time is running out for us. A voice of reason! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 11:23:13 GMT -8
To this day, it blows my mind when people speak as if Brady Hoke is some terrific football coach. After posting a below .500 record at Ball State (yes the support sucked, I get it), he had a losing season here before getting to a HOME bowl game against an average opponent. And our schedule that year was extremely soft. Look at the W's and L's that year. We beat the UNM's, UNLV's, and CSU's we needed to that season, and didn't pull off a single upset of significance on the schedule. Yes, I understand in his time here we "almost" beat Mizzou and BYU. But, we didn't. And Hoke never upset TCU, or BYU, or Boise as Rocky has.
In 2009 Brady lost to Wyoming and UNLV in a dismal 4-8 campaign. The following year we didn't beat a good team except AFA until the bowl game.
Some of these idiots speak about Hoke as if he did here what Urban Meyer did at Utah or what Patterson did for TCU. These are the fans who will always have low expectations and be thrilled with every 8 win season and Poinsettia Bowl appearance.
Was he the best football coach we had hired since Luginbill? Yes. I mean, the guy followed Tom and Chuck for Gods sakes. And he is a competent football coach, but hardly great. We can do better, and you could argue we have.
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Post by aztech on Oct 28, 2014 11:57:45 GMT -8
To this day, it blows my mind when people speak as if Brady Hoke is some terrific football coach. After posting a below .500 record at Ball State (yes the support sucked, I get it), he had a losing season here before getting to a HOME bowl game against an average opponent. And our schedule that year was extremely soft. Look at the W's and L's that year. We beat the UNM's, UNLV's, and CSU's we needed to that season, and didn't pull off a single upset of significance on the schedule. Yes, I understand in his time here we "almost" beat Mizzou and BYU. But, we didn't. And Hoke never upset TCU, or BYU, or Boise as Rocky has. In 2009 Brady lost to Wyoming and UNLV in a dismal 4-8 campaign. The following year we didn't beat a good team except AFA until the bowl game. Some of these idiots speak about Hoke as if he did here what Urban Meyer did at Utah or what Patterson did for TCU. These are the fans who will always have low expectations and be thrilled with every 8 win season and Poinsettia Bowl appearance. Was he the best football coach we had hired since Luginbill? Yes. I mean, the guy followed Tom and Chuck for Gods sakes. And he is a competent football coach, but hardly great. We can do better, and you could argue we have.
Hoke brought confidence and badly needed order into our program. He set the foundation for his successors. We'll never know where he would have led us had he stuck around longer. There's no question he's in over his head at Michigan, but I think he's more suited to coaching low level P5 schools, at best. Which is probably a step above Rocky who's best suited to coaching in the MWC.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 12:32:25 GMT -8
That's true and all, but you are what your record is...and Hoke's record is a little far from glorious. No doubt he did some good things with our program and laid the foundation, but I don't get all the people clamoring for his return. Talk about settling.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Oct 30, 2014 17:42:13 GMT -8
That's true and all, but you are what your record is...and Hoke's record is a little far from glorious. No doubt he did some good things with our program and laid the foundation, but I don't get all the people clamoring for his return. Talk about settling. Hoke's trajectory was up at both schools after resurrecting each program, ours especially. It lacks context when you just post the overall record. It's disingenuous. I don't want Hoke back but we need to be fair to his accomplishments here. Sent from my Admiral Mark 01 Telegraph machine via Sputnik with dial-up |
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Post by tttrojan4life on Oct 31, 2014 3:03:16 GMT -8
Hopefully Michigan doesn't go after Rocky after they fire Hoke. Rocky then can explain that it has been his "dream job" too.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 9:20:53 GMT -8
Michigan AD out today.
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Post by gamer2101 on Oct 31, 2014 20:46:24 GMT -8
Rocky lovers, do you think that Long would be successful coaching Michigan? Hoke's awful Michigan team would beat SDSU by 25. No ...and that's all I have to say about that. |
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Oct 31, 2014 21:10:06 GMT -8
LOL Missiontrails already posted my response. We're not giving Fisher back. The UNC news makes me think he may get a second national title at Mich though. That would be great, but when the NCAA vacates a spot in a championship, that's it. They do not move others up. Even if a team did move up, it wouldn't be Michigan. They already vacated the entire season. |
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Post by uncledougy on Nov 1, 2014 8:25:58 GMT -8
I wonder if San Diego State would become Hoke's "dream job" in 2 months?
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Post by uncledougy on Nov 1, 2014 8:28:34 GMT -8
I never really thought about it before, but Rocky gets $850k/yr as the Head Coach and DC....if they brought in a DC, his pay would have to decrease some, don't ya think?
Incentive for being DC/HC.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 8:37:31 GMT -8
Hoke and Michigan football is the laughing stock of college fb. Hoke even is saying the "we are practicing well" nonsense. Any ad that hired him would see the same end as the ad that hired Hoke.
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