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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Oct 26, 2014 7:24:56 GMT -8
Rocky lovers, do you think that Long would be successful coaching Michigan? Hoke's awful Michigan team would beat SDSU by 25. I seriously doubt it. Chuck Long's team almost beat ND and Tom Craft's team nearly beat Michigan in their houses. We are much better now than those teams were then. Sent from my Admiral Mark 01 Telegraph machine via Sputnik with dial-up
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Oct 26, 2014 7:25:46 GMT -8
Hoke will not have to wait too long for a job after being let go at Michigan. The MAC is calling! Ball State.... Sent from my Admiral Mark 01 Telegraph machine via Sputnik with dial-up
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Oct 26, 2014 8:16:49 GMT -8
Where does he go from here? Once you've coached the Michigan Wolverines, at the pinnacle of college football, is there a job anywhere you can get motivated for? This is a man who literally lived for one dream, and in a few weeks it will be taken away from him forever. How can he get excited about Ball State?
I think I'm actually starting to feel a bit sorry for Hoke. As sorry as you can feel for a multi millionaire, that is.
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Post by azzfan on Oct 26, 2014 9:12:53 GMT -8
I don't feel sorry for the sausage pizza eating fatty. Along with the $$ he'll walk away with, a mid tier SEC or B12 gig will be waiting for him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 9:43:25 GMT -8
We would never hire Hoke as long as we have Rocky but I would prefer him over Rocky. Oh, my what a thing to say. Appears you don't understand that much about CFB. You must think the Aztecs could just dial in Nick Saban or whomever. After this season, Hoke would not be hired by Patrick Henry HS, and that is truly saying a lot. As Jim Herrick aptly put it, the blessing that Hoke left behind is Rocky Long. With enough of us mentors here, perhaps most all will eventually understand. Rather straw man of you.
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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Oct 26, 2014 9:52:25 GMT -8
I don't feel sorry for the sausage pizza eating fatty. Along with the $$ he'll walk away with, a mid tier SEC or B12 gig will be waiting for him. Indeed. Rich Rod did pretty well after getting kicked out of there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 10:17:47 GMT -8
Rocky lovers, do you think that Long would be successful coaching Michigan? Hoke's awful Michigan team would beat SDSU by 25. Rocky Basher,do you think you would have written this if you had any critical thinking skills? Do you, critical thinker, think that it makes sense to ask a person bereft of critical thinking skills to think critically about a post lacking critical thought (quadruple question marks) Clearly, were I thinking critically I would be rejoicing in the failures of a former coach of my favorite college team. Thanks for the wake up call. What I meant to say was "ha ha ha. Suck it Hoke. Idiot dummy. That will teach you to try and reach the highest echelon of your chosen profession."
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Post by kozy on Oct 26, 2014 10:46:25 GMT -8
I don't feel sorry for the sausage pizza eating fatty. Along with the $$ he'll walk away with, a mid tier SEC or B12 gig will be waiting for him. Indeed. Rich Rod did pretty well after getting kicked out of there. Rodriquez didn't get kicked out of Michigan, Lloyd "the back stabbing weasel" Carr was the one who released Michigan players from there scholarships before Rick ever got to campus. The back stabbing weasel was upset that he didn't get to pick his successor and did what he could to make Rod fail. Wonder how he feels now? A true Michigan man. Carr polluted the waters with the players and alumni that Rod never had a chance. In effect Rodriquez got there and the senior class had left and part of the junior class. He did not have the senior leadership or the depth to win. Brandon, the AD, was a very successful business man who ran a 6 person company that invested in real estate. He was not qualified to run the AD of Michigan, If he was, then so am I. He still isn't. Concussions don't happen to Michigan players and we make sure that they are cared for. Rodriquez said that he would go through 4 phases in turning around the Michigan program; Year 1, lose ugly; year 2, lose close, year three winning ugly and year four dominate. He got to enjoy the first three and then Hoke got to enjoy the results of Rodriquez's hard work not Rick. Also the athletic department at Michigan was and probably still is with Brandon at the helm; it could not tell Rodriquez what was the GPA for the football team. Aren't you responsible to manage that metric? Isn't it odd that Hoke had one great year at Ball State, one great year here at SDSU and one great year at Michigan? It appears that he can blow up a program for one great season and then leave. Unfortunately for him there was no program to go to next. Terry Bowden will be a P5 head coach before Hoke. Terry is 4-4 still year losing to Ball State yesterday. That's funny in a strange way.
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Post by junior on Oct 26, 2014 10:57:27 GMT -8
Hoke's ability to bring in NFL quality players and coach them up seems to be the most pressing issue for both him and Wolverines Football right now.
He'll land on his feet, but he'll have to carry the sour experience around with him forever (along with that gut of his - it's a volcano waiting to blow). You don't fail at Ann Arbor and walk away from it unscathed.
Be careful what you wish for.
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Oct 26, 2014 11:01:53 GMT -8
We would never hire Hoke as long as we have Rocky but I would prefer him over Rocky. Oh, my what a thing to say. Appears you don't understand that much about CFB. You must think the Aztecs could just dial in Nick Saban or whomever. After this season, Hoke would not be hired by Patrick Henry HS, and that is truly saying a lot. As Jim Herrick aptly put it, the blessing that Hoke left behind is Rocky Long. With enough of us mentors here, perhaps most all will eventually understand. I like that you tell Tec be doesn't understand CFB and subsequently show that you don't understand CFB.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Oct 26, 2014 11:33:51 GMT -8
Rocky Basher,do you think you would have written this if you had any critical thinking skills? Do you, critical thinker, think that it makes sense to ask a person bereft of critical thinking skills to think critically about a post lacking critical thought (quadruple question marks) Clearly, were I thinking critically I would be rejoicing in the failures of a former coach of my favorite college team. Thanks for the wake up call. What I meant to say was "ha ha ha. Suck it Hoke. Idiot dummy. That will teach you to try and reach the highest echelon of your chosen profession." I think Stephen knows a little about CFB, unlike you. I suggest that you guard your credibility better, just a thought. Sent from my Admiral Mark 01 Telegraph machine via Sputnik with dial-up
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 13:14:59 GMT -8
Rocky Basher,do you think you would have written this if you had any critical thinking skills? Do you, critical thinker, think that it makes sense to ask a person bereft of critical thinking skills to think critically about a post lacking critical thought (quadruple question marks) Clearly, were I thinking critically I would be rejoicing in the failures of a former coach of my favorite college team. Thanks for the wake up call. What I meant to say was "ha ha ha. Suck it Hoke. Idiot dummy. That will teach you to try and reach the highest echelon of your chosen profession." I respect both Coach Long and Coach Hoke.I have many friends who know Hoke and speak highly of him. Coach Long is a very good coach as well.You start with Rocky Lovers,that's where you immediately go off the rails by assuming that those who post on this topic are either blind Rocky supporters or Hoke haters. Your projecting on all posters the view of a few. When Hoke was hired at Michigan I though his ambition had stripped his sense of judgment,but I do nto blame him for living the dream. i know the pressure there I have two cousins who were head coaches at two power house Michigan high schools. The pressure to recruit the five stars out weights the coaches judgment of their potential.
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Post by chris92065 on Oct 26, 2014 13:47:09 GMT -8
Michigan needs to realize it's not the pinnacle of College football anymore. It's a mid tier program in a conference that is no longer dominant like it once was. I really believe that the big ten is living on borrowed time. Look at the states that comprise the big ten and then you'll realize the money stream will be decreasing over time.
Hoke fell into the Michigan coaching vacancy. We all said at the time that hoke was probably number 5 on their list. Think of the jump he made conf from sdsu to Michigan is quite the leap. I believe that les miles and both harbaugh brothers were higher on the list than hoke. Michigan was really counting on either the harbughs or miles to commit and when that didn't happen they were shells hocked and started scrambling for a "Michigan" guy.
Home will be fine. He has millions of dollars he can waste on pizza.
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Post by AZK619 on Oct 26, 2014 14:05:46 GMT -8
I wonder if him or Bronco would come be Rocky's DC I would love Bronco Mendenhall here. But we would have to pony up some money for that. Make him DC, Head coach in waiting.
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Post by zurac315 on Oct 26, 2014 14:13:24 GMT -8
Where does he go from here? Once you've coached the Michigan Wolverines, at the pinnacle of college football, is there a job anywhere you can get motivated for? This is a man who literally lived for one dream, and in a few weeks it will be taken away from him forever. How can he get excited about Ball State? I think I'm actually starting to feel a bit sorry for Hoke. As sorry as you can feel for a multi millionaire, that is. Maybe ask Rodriguez?
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Post by zurac315 on Oct 26, 2014 14:16:33 GMT -8
Hoke is a good coach. He'll do fine. Probably just not good enough to run a program at the very top. He went after his dream and lived it. It hasn't worked out so far. I give him credit for trying it. His last year here was a good one. I wish he had stayed.
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Post by biotec on Oct 26, 2014 15:44:53 GMT -8
I'd have liked Brady Hoke to have done well at Michigan. It was a pisser the way he left here but he made no secret about the fact that Michigan was his dream job. It's shame to see it all falling apart for him.
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Post by MarshallU on Oct 27, 2014 8:46:42 GMT -8
Rocky lovers, do you think that Long would be successful coaching Michigan? Hoke's awful Michigan team would beat SDSU by 25. Rocky Basher,do you think you would have written this if you had any critical thinking skills? did he post it to bash rocky? yes. is what he said not true? sadly, no.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 27, 2014 8:59:03 GMT -8
O.K. he reached for the brass ring and fell off the merry-go-round. It's pretty much over, he needs to dust himself off and get back in the game when the time comes. Can we let this rest until the hammer falls??
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Post by missiontrails on Oct 27, 2014 9:37:36 GMT -8
Rocky Basher,do you think you would have written this if you had any critical thinking skills? did he post it to bash rocky? yes. is what he said not true? sadly, no. True, but it's kinda like a Dodger fan bragging about beating the Padres. When you've got the resources.........
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