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Post by johndavid18 on Oct 21, 2014 15:28:51 GMT -8
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Post by matteosandiego on Oct 21, 2014 15:45:43 GMT -8
It is definitely going to be interesting to see how all the minutes play themselves out.
With all the talk about Zabo & Trey Kell impressing,
This article fails to even mention Dakarai Allen or D'erryl Williams.
I think both are more long term/glue guys that will be really needed when they are juniors/seniors but still...
Either way, the players performances will earn themselves playing time.
And I'm expecting big things from Shrigley this season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 15:49:19 GMT -8
Fisher did say Shrigley is shooting the best in preseason and Quinn and Polee can shoot well
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 16:07:10 GMT -8
Matt will get his minutes in.
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 21, 2014 16:37:31 GMT -8
Last year this guy struggled out of the gate, and he never got significant playing time. He needs to hit his first eight or nine three-pointers and establish himself as the man.
Bottom line he needs a very fast start.
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Post by aztecbb on Oct 21, 2014 20:27:25 GMT -8
Beg to differ with the article - Shrigley is the best shooter on the team and will get his minutes. I think he is one of those stepping up to fill some of the void left by X.
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Post by Gundo on Oct 21, 2014 21:25:24 GMT -8
Fisher did say Shrigley is shooting the best in preseason and Quinn and Polee can shoot well Heard Pope was the best shooter in the gym. |
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Post by standiego on Oct 21, 2014 22:05:28 GMT -8
Fisher said last week that Shrigley 6"-6" was the best catch and shoot player the first week , but as we saw last year very streaky,- not sure if he can do it consistently, . Polee 6'7"is very athletic ,tremendous spring so it is very difficult to defend his shot when he elevates and can take it to the hoop- so a double threat and plays D . Pope 6'9" has a very wide variety of ways to Score ,incredibly athletic also, that will be evident when he is healthy , they are bringing him along slowly after the two injuries . Fisher commented during the summer that he also was a good shooter and a definite scorer Kell , coach said has a certain knack for playing / scoring that is just comes natural to him . Shepard 6'8" can also elevate , but still working on his jumper ,also strong to the hoop, noted for D in HS may play up to 4 different positions as needed . Allen another one of the guys that is strong and athletic going to the rim, working on his jumper,another strong defender .JJ says his injury has healed , so we will see about his shooting as he moves to PF .All the guys need to make sure to not only get to the rim but Finish when they get there or all the moves are just that moves without a score - . Zabo working very hard at PG , was also a SG last year . So there are numerous guys battling for minutes as shooters but need to make sure they are scorers . This team is the best 1-13 team the Aztecs have had , so PT could be spread out .
The Coach was asked today if he had a idea who his starting 5 was , he said he thought so but was not going to say , as there is still a lot of practice . Also asked if he will stay with the same starting 5 . In one way he said ,he would not move a guy out of the starting line up for 1 bad game but on the other hand also may try different combinations of starters and different reserves , for at least a month or more . The coach also said last week the only media person who has attended the practices is Mark Zeigler not sure who else has been there lately .
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Post by aztecron on Oct 22, 2014 6:24:53 GMT -8
Shrigley needs to stop going under ball screens with less than 5 seconds left on the shot clock if he wants to stay in the rotation... Just kidding, I love that comment from Coach Fisher to him in the practice video posted.
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Post by chris92065 on Oct 22, 2014 6:32:28 GMT -8
Shrigley needs to hit 3 's on a consistent basis for us to go far in the tourney.
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 22, 2014 7:59:01 GMT -8
Article said Shrigley finished the year with a 40% 3 point percentage. His 3 point percentage was 35.4%. In conference it was 29.4%. The Aztecs did shoot 35.8% on 3 point shots overall, but in conference that percentage dropped to 30.7%. That is last among the 11 teams in the MWC. All the Aztecs main 3 point shooters went from very good OOC to poor in conference. | | | All
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| | | | Player | 3P | 3PA | 3P% | 3P | 3PA | 3P% | 3P | 3PA | 3P% | Difference | | Xavier Thames | 61 | 163 | 37.4% | 38 | 91 | 41.8% | 23 | 72 | 31.9% | 9.9% | | Matt Shrigley | 40 | 113 | 35.4% | 25 | 62 | 40.3% | 15 | 51 | 29.4% | 10.9% | | Dwayne Polee | 36 | 92 | 39.1% | 23 | 49 | 46.9% | 13 | 43 | 30.2% | 16.7% | | Aqeel Quinn | 28 | 80 | 35.0% | 12 | 32 | 37.5% | 16 | 48 | 33.3% | 4.2% |
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Post by Old School on Oct 22, 2014 8:05:39 GMT -8
Shrigley needs to stop going under ball screens with less than 5 seconds left on the shot clock if he wants to stay in the rotation... Just kidding, I love that comment from Coach Fisher to him in the practice video posted. When the coach gets on you (I witnessed a couple times in the video) expect to improve if you apply what he teaches you. Oldie Out |
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Post by standiego on Oct 22, 2014 9:04:59 GMT -8
Shrigley was the first sub off the bench last year, from the first game and got ample opportunity to produce . He was only consistent in a few games . Not easy to come off the bench and be the hot 3 point shooter or instant offense , need to learn to become an over all scorer ,taking it to the basket also . Aztecs have added Pope and Kell to the mix for scorers. Polee became the better shooter/ scorer plus played better D last year and became the 6th man. AQ was hot and cold at shooting but also could play guard . Allen got lost in the shuffle as the Aztecs still needed another outside shooter , to me accent should be Scorer not just a shooter , want instant offense no matter where it comes from on the court .
The clip does show Fisher is always coaching , especially D . Also shows a mental point and fundamental point about D , as he asked Shrigley did you hear the last 5 second being called out on the shot clock , meant he was supposed to go over not under the screen . It can mean the difference in possibly blocking a shot or getting there late and the other team scoring . Shrigley is not as quick or athletic as Polee or Allen on D , so he needs to know what to do on D .
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Post by Old School on Oct 22, 2014 21:45:06 GMT -8
Indeed, being smart and savvy can make up for lack of god-given gifts.
Oldie Out
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Post by aztecgold on Oct 24, 2014 9:26:00 GMT -8
Shrigley will get the first shot at playing time based upon experience. He is a very good shooter, but is streaky. His biggest problem is lack of confidence. If he hits his first shot he has a good game if he misses then he loses confidence and seems afraid to shoot. Not a shooter's mentality. Shooters like Kobe Bryant can miss 10 shots in a row and still think they will make their next shot. Polee has that type of shooter's mentality and that is why he hits some clutch shots. Just wish Shrigley could get more of that type of thinking.
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Post by standiego on Oct 24, 2014 10:16:42 GMT -8
For the first part of the season Shrigley was the first reserve in . He had ample time to get in the groove . He also had his whole red shirt season to work on his outside shooting . Agree it is not easy to come off the bench and be on fire from 3 point land , so maybe a couple of moves to the basket, short jumpers to get him going or take it to the hoop . I do not know how his outside shooting compares to Kell or Pope , and which one ,two or three of the group comes in when , all depends on what the team needs . To me would also want the plan to involve Skylar and other guys down low in the offense more , have them moving to get open for an easier shot or FT , then the catch and shoot three . Time for Skylar to realize if he is a force there are not many teams in the MW that can match up with him and would force them to match up with us, rather then for us to be forced to go small ball , time for us to dictate the tempo. Another way Shrigley can get more PT or more valuable to the team is become a 75-80 FT % .
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 24, 2014 10:19:17 GMT -8
Shrigley was the first sub off the bench last year, from the first game and got ample opportunity to produce . He was only consistent in a few games . Not easy to come off the bench and be the hot 3 point shooter or instant offense , need to learn to become an over all scorer ,taking it to the basket also . Aztecs have added Pope and Kell to the mix for scorers. Polee became the better shooter/ scorer plus played better D last year and became the 6th man. AQ was hot and cold at shooting but also could play guard . Allen got lost in the shuffle as the Aztecs still needed another outside shooter , to me accent should be Scorer not just a shooter , want instant offense no matter where it comes from on the court . The clip does show Fisher is always coaching , especially D . Also shows a mental point and fundamental point about D , as he asked Shrigley did you hear the last 5 second being called out on the shot clock , meant he was supposed to go over not under the screen . It can mean the difference in possibly blocking a shot or getting there late and the other team scoring . Shrigley is not as quick or athletic as Polee or Allen on D , so he needs to know what to do on D . Me thinks you fail to grasp the meaning of "consistent". |
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 24, 2014 10:41:28 GMT -8
Shrigley shot 41% on 3s from the open of the season to game 16 (16 Games) on January 15 against Fresno State.
Shrigley missed 14 3 point shots in a row from game 17 through game 20 (4 Games). Aztecs won all those games.
Shrigley shot 40% on 3s for the rest of the season (17 Games).
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 24, 2014 10:50:57 GMT -8
Shrigley was the first sub off the bench last year, from the first game and got ample opportunity to produce . He was only consistent in a few games . Not easy to come off the bench and be the hot 3 point shooter or instant offense , need to learn to become an over all scorer ,taking it to the basket also . Aztecs have added Pope and Kell to the mix for scorers. Polee became the better shooter/ scorer plus played better D last year and became the 6th man. AQ was hot and cold at shooting but also could play guard . Allen got lost in the shuffle as the Aztecs still needed another outside shooter , to me accent should be Scorer not just a shooter , want instant offense no matter where it comes from on the court . The clip does show Fisher is always coaching , especially D . Also shows a mental point and fundamental point about D , as he asked Shrigley did you hear the last 5 second being called out on the shot clock , meant he was supposed to go over not under the screen . It can mean the difference in possibly blocking a shot or getting there late and the other team scoring . Shrigley is not as quick or athletic as Polee or Allen on D , so he needs to know what to do on D . Me thinks you fail to grasp the meaning of "consistent". "effective"? |
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 24, 2014 10:52:40 GMT -8
Here are Shrigleys games where his 3 point shooting value (3PV) was either +3 or higher or -3 or lower. 3PV = 3P*3-3PA (or the difference between points and shots). | Opponent | 3P | 3PA | Value | | Best Games | | | | | Nevada-Las Vegas | 4 | 5 | 7 | | College of Charleston | 4 | 7 | 5 | | Utah State | 4 | 7 | 5 | | New Mexico State | 2 | 2 | 4 | | California-Riverside | 2 | 3 | 3 | | San Diego Christian | 3 | 6 | 3 | | Creighton | 2 | 3 | 3 | | Air Force | 3 | 6 | 3 | | Worst Games | | | | | Nevada-Las Vegas | 0 | 4 | -4 | | San Jose State | 0 | 4 | -4 | | Utah State | 0 | 4 | -4 | | McNeese State | 2 | 9 | -3 |
Interesting that his best and worst games were against UNLV. The top 3 worst games were consecutive. We won every game listed. |
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