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Post by Gundo on Oct 19, 2014 22:19:38 GMT -8
Here's a summary of the 2015 SDSU Aztecs OFFERs, the list is a combination of Rivals, 24/7 Sports and ESPN. Who is the Big Winner? The PAC-12. The only recruit we lost to the MWC was Nate Grimes, who we pulled the plug on after Buddha Jones committed to the Aztecs.
Point Guard Kendall Small 6’0 175 – Oregon New Williams 6’2 175 – Auburn Sederick Barefield 6’2 180 – SMU Marcus Lovett 5’11 165 – TBD (Kansas forerunner)
Shooting Guard Jeremey Hemsley 6’3 175 – SDSU Rex Pflueger 6’5 185 – Notre Dame Tyler Dorsey 6’4 180 –TBD (decomitted) Justin Simon 6’4 190 – Arizona Stephen Thompson Jr 6’4 175 – Oregon State
Small Forward Ray Smith 6’7 185 – Arizona Cameron Walker 6’6 185 – Stanford Nate Grimes 6’8 210 – Fresno State
Power Forward Brodricks Jones 6’9 200 – SDSU Chemieze Metu 6’9 205 - USC Marquees Chriss 6’8 230 – Washington Beanie Boatwright 6’9 185 – USC
Center Earnest Aflakpui 6’10 225 – Temple Drew Eubanks 6’10 210 – Oregon State
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Post by standiego on Oct 20, 2014 7:48:08 GMT -8
The PAC is way out in front of the MW in recruiting , not even close . Most of the top ten have not signed and early signing week comes up in November , when the schools similar to Kentucky , Kansas..... make their move . We have two decent recruits , and could be done . Will be interesting to see what UNLV does.
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Post by pbbroker on Oct 20, 2014 9:50:54 GMT -8
The PAC is way out in front of the MW in recruiting , not even close . Most of the top ten have not signed and early signing week comes up in November , when the schools similar to Kentucky , Kansas..... make their move . We have two decent recruits , and could be done . Will be interesting to see what UNLV does. It's kinda of SAD, so many of these Pac-12 recruits will never experience a NCAA march madness game in their lifetime.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 20, 2014 9:56:56 GMT -8
The PAC is way out in front of the MW in recruiting , not even close . Most of the top ten have not signed and early signing week comes up in November , when the schools similar to Kentucky , Kansas..... make their move . We have two decent recruits , and could be done . Will be interesting to see what UNLV does. It's kinda of SAD, so many of these Pac-12 recruits will never experience a NCAA march madness game in their lifetime. It's playing on the pac12 big stage, that's all I can see why they are willing to sign with go nowhere pac12 squads. Wait then there could be $5,000/year in the future.
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Post by standiego on Oct 20, 2014 11:05:28 GMT -8
Would guess the PAC could get 4 to 6 teams from the PAC in MM . MW maybe 2 .
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Oct 20, 2014 11:28:21 GMT -8
Looks like the Aztecs are the big winners...landing their two top choices (sure it would have been nice to also pick up Simon or Barefield...but you can't win 'em all)
They got the best PF in the group and the 2nd best SG...filling needs
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Post by standiego on Oct 20, 2014 12:13:25 GMT -8
guards : Simon #21 Arizona , Ali # 28 UCLA, Murray #51 Washington , Holiday #57 UCLA , SF : R.Smith #11 Arizona , Walker # 70 Stanford PF : Comanche #31 Arizona, Metu # 45 USC , Chriss # 46 Washington , Boatwright #55 USC
Hemsley #72 and BJ # 99 per Rivals
Aztecs do require their guys to play Defense so we do not always know guys we want, or what guys do not want to come here because they do not want Defense to be a priority
Arizona , Washington , UCLA, USC, have all done a good job
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Oct 20, 2014 14:51:50 GMT -8
guards : Simon #21 Arizona , Ali # 28 UCLA, Murray #51 Washington , Holiday #57 UCLA , SF : R.Smith #11 Arizona , Walker # 70 Stanford PF : Comanche #31 Arizona, Metu # 45 USC , Chriss # 46 Washington , Boatwright #55 USC Hemsley #72 and BJ # 99 per Rivals Aztecs do require their guys to play Defense so we do not always know guys we want, or what guys do not want to come here because they do not want Defense to be a priority Arizona , Washington , UCLA, USC, have all done a good job We also want guys who will stay in school at least 2-3 years...
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 20, 2014 17:25:49 GMT -8
guards : Simon #21 Arizona , Ali # 28 UCLA, Murray #51 Washington , Holiday #57 UCLA , SF : R.Smith #11 Arizona , Walker # 70 Stanford PF : Comanche #31 Arizona, Metu # 45 USC , Chriss # 46 Washington , Boatwright #55 USC Hemsley #72 and BJ # 99 per Rivals Aztecs do require their guys to play Defense so we do not always know guys we want, or what guys do not want to come here because they do not want Defense to be a priority Arizona , Washington , UCLA, USC, have all done a good job We also want guys who will stay in school at least 2-3 years... That is not so. The Aztecs rate character and defense higher than most other schools.
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Post by sdcoug on Oct 20, 2014 17:56:29 GMT -8
guards : Simon #21 Arizona , Ali # 28 UCLA, Murray #51 Washington , Holiday #57 UCLA , SF : R.Smith #11 Arizona , Walker # 70 Stanford PF : Comanche #31 Arizona, Metu # 45 USC , Chriss # 46 Washington , Boatwright #55 USC Hemsley #72 and BJ # 99 per Rivals Aztecs do require their guys to play Defense so we do not always know guys we want, or what guys do not want to come here because they do not want Defense to be a priority Arizona , Washington , UCLA, USC, have all done a good job I'd add Oregon (Manuel & Small), Oregon St (Tinkle, Thompson & Eubanks) & Stanford (Walker & Sheffield) to that list as well. All 7 schools recruited multiple 4 or 5 star players for 2015 already. The only schools in the P12 who I'd say are very unlikely to reach the NCAA during their first 3 years (2015-2017) are WSU and ASU. Cal & OSU would be on the next tier, although OSU's class gives it a strong footing. I think Utah, Colorado, Stanford, UW, UA, UCLA, USC & Oregon all have a high likelihood of going to the dance during that time frame, many multiple times.
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Oct 20, 2014 18:39:52 GMT -8
We also want guys who will stay in school at least 2-3 years... That is not so. The Aztecs rate character and defense higher than most other schools. I can't speak for Coach fisher and/or the other coaches...but from experience thus far, it appears that Fisher and co. rarely are looking for the one-and-done type players (none so far during their tenure)...those aren't the type of players you build programs around (unless your name is Calipari)...I guess if one lands at your doorstep you might consider it...but as you mentioned above...players at SDSU play defense and have character and integrity...so unless those characteristics are a part of the package...Coach Fisher will pass
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 20, 2014 20:20:03 GMT -8
That is not so. The Aztecs rate character and defense higher than most other schools. I can't speak for Coach fisher and/or the other coaches...but from experience thus far, it appears that Fisher and co. rarely are looking for the one-and-done type players (none so far during their tenure)...those aren't the type of players you build programs around (unless your name is Calipari)...I guess if one lands at your doorstep you might consider it...but as you mentioned above...players at SDSU play defense and have character and integrity...so unless those characteristics are a part of the package...Coach Fisher will pass A one and done player is like Josh Davis - only better. Fisher has already shown he will take one and done with Greene and Davis.
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Post by Gundo on Oct 20, 2014 22:33:25 GMT -8
As it stands now we should have 4 scholarships by 2016, recruits and transfers. Heck some of these kids could transfer to the Aztecs.
I assume that after this season, there is going to be a line of players waiting to play for Fish, Dutch and Hut. Players across the country!
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Post by standiego on Oct 21, 2014 8:02:21 GMT -8
When the coaches were asked if they would recruit a one and done HS player their response without hesitation YES . Aztec recruiting has improved incredibly top 20 class in 2014 but if you look at the results and the number of scholarships available .At least 4 of the PAC schools have done a better job of recruiting then we have. Being in the PAC vs MW sure helps
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Oct 21, 2014 8:36:07 GMT -8
When the coaches were asked if they would recruit a one and done HS player their response without hesitation YES . Aztec recruiting has improved incredibly top 20 class in 2014 but if you look at the results and the number of scholarships available .At least 4 of the PAC schools have done a better job of recruiting then we have. Being in the PAC vs MW sure helps Funny...I had the opportunity to talk with Justin Hutson over the summer and asked him this question...he told me that they always want to take the "best player available"...but that being said, they were looking to elevate the program as a whole and that can't be done if you continually lose your young players before they can become team leaders...I read that to mean that they weren't looking for one-and-done freshmen (as Bill pointed out..the coaches have no problem with graduate transfers as they are already seasoned veterans exhibiting a high level of leadership...) He also said that putting players in the NBA definitely helps on the recruiting trail... So take it for what it's worth
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Post by AztecWilliam on Oct 21, 2014 9:46:43 GMT -8
Here's a summary of the 2015 SDSU recruiting class, the list is a combination of Rivals, 24/7 Sports and ESPN. Who is the Big Winner? The PAC-12. The only recruit we lost to the MWC was Nate Grimes, who we pulled the plug on after Buddha Jones committed to the Aztecs. Point GuardKendall Small 6’0 175 – Oregon New Williams 6’2 175 – Auburn Sederick Barefield 6’2 180 – SMU Marcus Lovett 5’11 165 – TBD (Kansas forerunner) Shooting GuardJeremey Hemsley 6’3 175 – SDSURex Pflueger 6’5 185 – Notre Dame Tyler Dorsey 6’4 180 –TBD (decomitted) Justin Simon 6’4 190 – Arizona Stephen Thompson Jr 6’4 175 – Oregon State Small ForwardRay Smith 6’7 185 – Arizona Cameron Walker 6’6 185 – Stanford Nate Grimes 6’8 210 – Fresno State Power ForwardBrodricks Jones 6’9 200 – SDSUChemieze Metu 6’9 205 - USC Marquees Chriss 6’8 230 – Washington Beanie Boatwright 6’9 185 – USC CenterEarnest Aflakpui 6’10 225 – Temple Drew Eubanks 6’10 210 – Oregon State
I don't really understand what the list represents. Are these the players the Aztecs are trying to recruit, or is there some other rationale involved in the creation of the list?
You talk about the Pac-12 versus the MWC, yet the list contains players committed to Notre Dame and Temple. Only half the Pac-12 teams are represented on the list. . . does this mean that the other half currently have no commits? In what sense is this a summary?
Obviously, there are scores of other players committed to programs in other conferences. Are the players listed in each category considered the best in the country at their respective positions? Is this a list of players from the West? Please explain the methodology used to compile the list.
Also, it would be helpful to title the thread "Status of SDSU's basketball recruiting class. . " I may be picky here, but if so it's a product of having earned a living for a number of years making sure that what I wrote was not open to various interpretations. AzWm
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Oct 21, 2014 10:01:56 GMT -8
Here's a summary of the 2015 SDSU recruiting class, the list is a combination of Rivals, 24/7 Sports and ESPN. Who is the Big Winner? The PAC-12. The only recruit we lost to the MWC was Nate Grimes, who we pulled the plug on after Buddha Jones committed to the Aztecs. Point GuardKendall Small 6’0 175 – Oregon New Williams 6’2 175 – Auburn Sederick Barefield 6’2 180 – SMU Marcus Lovett 5’11 165 – TBD (Kansas forerunner) Shooting GuardJeremey Hemsley 6’3 175 – SDSURex Pflueger 6’5 185 – Notre Dame Tyler Dorsey 6’4 180 –TBD (decomitted) Justin Simon 6’4 190 – Arizona Stephen Thompson Jr 6’4 175 – Oregon State Small ForwardRay Smith 6’7 185 – Arizona Cameron Walker 6’6 185 – Stanford Nate Grimes 6’8 210 – Fresno State Power ForwardBrodricks Jones 6’9 200 – SDSUChemieze Metu 6’9 205 - USC Marquees Chriss 6’8 230 – Washington Beanie Boatwright 6’9 185 – USC CenterEarnest Aflakpui 6’10 225 – Temple Drew Eubanks 6’10 210 – Oregon State
I don't really understand what the list represents. Are these the players the Aztecs are trying to recruit, or is there some other rationale involved in the creation of the list?
You talk about the Pac-12 versus the MWC, yet the list contains players committed to Notre Dame and Temple. Only half the Pac-12 teams are represented on the list. . . does this mean that the other half currently have no commits? In what sense is this a summary?
Obviously, there are scores of other players committed to programs in other conferences. Are the players listed in each category considered the best in the country at their respective positions? Is this a list of players from the West? Please explain the methodology used to compile the list.
Also, it would be helpful to title the thread "Status of SDSU's basketball recruiting class. . " I may be picky here, but if so it's a product of having earned a living for a number of years making sure that what I wrote was not open to various interpretations. AzWm
I believe this is a list of all the players we gave offers to. It's missing a couple I think but it has just about all of them EDIT: actually on second thought there are a few players we didn't offer (or at least I don't think we did): Metu, Lovett, Dorsey I don't think we offered
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Post by Gundo on Oct 21, 2014 11:20:03 GMT -8
I don't really understand what the list represents. Are these the players the Aztecs are trying to recruit, or is there some other rationale involved in the creation of the list?
You talk about the Pac-12 versus the MWC, yet the list contains players committed to Notre Dame and Temple. Only half the Pac-12 teams are represented on the list. . . does this mean that the other half currently have no commits? In what sense is this a summary?
Obviously, there are scores of other players committed to programs in other conferences. Are the players listed in each category considered the best in the country at their respective positions? Is this a list of players from the West? Please explain the methodology used to compile the list.
Also, it would be helpful to title the thread "Status of SDSU's basketball recruiting class. . " I may be picky here, but if so it's a product of having earned a living for a number of years making sure that what I wrote was not open to various interpretations. AzWm
I believe this is a list of all the players we gave offers to. It's missing a couple I think but it has just about all of them EDIT: actually on second thought there are a few players we didn't offer (or at least I don't think we did): Metu, Lovett, Dorsey I don't think we offered Offers went out to all but Metu & Dorsey, but there were interest in those players who quickly committed (and then Dorsey decommitted and reopened recruiting.) Lovett has an offer from UCLA, UCI, SDSU and now Kansas. Lovett's now been in 4 HS's in the last 3 years and may not be as desirable as once was. Its unusual to have a 4-star kid with 4 offers and little recruitment.
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Post by standiego on Oct 21, 2014 12:05:05 GMT -8
Bottom line so far the PAC has had a very good season of recruiting , especially Arizona . They do play defense and can handle one and done or guys that will be there for multiple years . Arizona does not have a great home state for recruiting but are able to do it country wide , especially in the West . Aztecs did ok, two top 100 recruits in two areas they will need help . The Aztec coaching staff is realistic about recruiting , they know many recruits do not prefer the importance of playing D , others still think of SDSU as playing in a Mid Major Conference- and prefer a Power Conference school with a lot of sizzle . Still believe if a top 10 recruit wanted to attend SDSU - the Aztec coaches would sign him . Malik Pope if he had not broken his leg - may have become a top 10 HS player . That said ,only Malik knows if we would have been his first choice . .
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 21, 2014 15:24:57 GMT -8
It seems the MWC has some really funky gyms (Wyoming, Air Force, Utah St., San Jose) on the schedule. I don't know if that factors into where a blue chip player will decide to play. The fact that SDSU is now a fixture in the Big Dance has to be a HUGE plus. Think of how many NCAA tournament games Tapley and Thames played in. Only a few schools in the PAC 12 can say they are in nearly EVERY year.
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