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Post by AztecBill on Oct 22, 2014 13:59:28 GMT -8
Hollywood... I have made it clear over the last two weeks that I'm over the whole Rocky Long thing. Rocky's not going anywhere. I have stated all along that I believe him to be a good coach, just not the coach to elevate this program to the 10 win in the regular season level. I like the guy, and I like his coaching style to a point. He's just not the long term answer (he has already reached retirement age, after all). As for last Saturday's game, I thought the team looked flat for much of the game and they were a bit sloppy at times. But they won, and that's the bottom line. Scoreboard. They closed the game out incredibly well. They got the ball with 6:00 minutes to go and a 10 point lead. Many games have been lost from that situation. The Aztecs gave the ball back to New Mexico having forced them to take all their time outs and leaving 28 seconds on the clock. What a great 4 minute offense. Without a 2 possession game, they could have ran out the clock by putting in Pumphrey on that 4th and 1 that they missed. Their 4 minute offense has been great this season. Against UNLV they consumed 12:30 on their last 2 drives to seal the game. Winning 10 games is not our goal. Our goal is to play in a New Year's Bowl. That requires winning the MWC and being better than any other P5 champion. You are trying to settle for mediocrity.
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Post by vision on Oct 22, 2014 15:24:05 GMT -8
Winning the MountainWest is our goal. It is the only thing we can control.
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Post by vision on Oct 22, 2014 15:25:20 GMT -8
If you can get SDSU into another conference that you perceive to be a better situation, then SDSU will try and be champions of THAT conference.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 22, 2014 16:38:58 GMT -8
Winning 10 games is not our goal. Our goal is to play in a New Year's Bowl. That requires winning the MWC and being better than any other P5 champion. You are trying to settle for mediocrity. Uh, huh. Well, we all know that as long as we're in the Molehill West we're never going to get into a New Year's Bowl. The strength of schedule will always be held against us. I get the not so subtle jab on the, "Mediocrity," part, but what we have here is failure to communicate. We all want the Aztecs to go as far as they possibly can - to win as many games as possible and to look as impressive as possible doing it. We would all love to see the Aztecs get national respect as a playoff contender, but until there are 16 teams in the football playoff, or until we're in a P5 conference, that just isn't possible considering the way that NCAA football is rigged. Right now the team is doing much better than the Aztec teams of 1999-2009 were doing. The hope is that we can take it up to the next level (9 & 10 regular season wins with regularity). We can't get any farther than that, and we certainly won't get a P5 invite, until we do at least that. Market size along isn't going to get us that invite. So all we can do is win as many games as we can and win as many conference championships as we can in the meantime. We'll have a better idea about how good this team is this year after the Nevada and Boise games.
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Post by standiego on Oct 22, 2014 16:42:54 GMT -8
the goal right now is to go out and win the next football game and then the next game..... It also helps keep the Aztecs in the hunt for the MW championship game another goal and a possible bowl bid . Not exactly the bowl bid we all want but it does mean a lot to the team and hopefully the fans . So yes this should be considered a vey important game for SDSU and its fans . You can only win games that are on the schedule . As noted the Aztec football team can only control the games they play . So their job is to win every game they play in. Does not mean we settle for being mediocre but in reality , that we are in the MW . Agree with the thought if we are in the MW then we should be getting to the MW championship game and winning it . Not easy to get in with out a good quality QB , some thing we do not have .
We would all love to be playing in a quality bowl , but that is not going to happen this year. We all want to be in a P5 conference but that is not going to come unless we get an offer , and that is in the hands of a P5 conference , not our administration . Our resume has been prepared but that does not mean there is an opening to be offered. Right now the B12 is mainly concerned with getting a team in the playoffs . Then all the conferences that did not get at least one or two in , will start to work on expanding the playoffs . So we and every other school that wants to move up to a P5 , will wait to see what happens
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 22, 2014 17:56:38 GMT -8
Winning 10 games is not our goal. Our goal is to play in a New Year's Bowl. That requires winning the MWC and being better than any other P5 champion. You are trying to settle for mediocrity. Uh, huh. Well, we all know that as long as we're in the Molehill West we're never going to get into a New Year's Bowl. The strength of schedule will always be held against us. I get the not so subtle jab on the, "Mediocrity," part, but what we have here is failure to communicate. We all want the Aztecs to go as far as they possibly can - to win as many games as possible and to look as impressive as possible doing it. We would all love to see the Aztecs get national respect as a playoff contender, but until there are 16 teams in the football playoff, or until we're in a P5 conference, that just isn't possible considering the way that NCAA football is rigged. Right now the team is doing much better than the Aztec teams of 1999-2009 were doing. The hope is that we can take it up to the next level (9 & 10 regular season wins with regularity). We can't get any farther than that, and we certainly won't get a P5 invite, until we do at least that. Market size along isn't going to get us that invite. So all we can do is win as many games as we can and win as many conference championships as we can in the meantime. We'll have a better idea about how good this team is this year after the Nevada and Boise games. Playing two FCS teams and beating them and winning the MWC will likely get us to a prime bowl. The MWC is close enough to as good as any other non P5 conference that we have a good chance. You seem to have a defeatist attitude.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 22, 2014 20:30:57 GMT -8
Uh, huh. Well, we all know that as long as we're in the Molehill West we're never going to get into a New Year's Bowl. The strength of schedule will always be held against us. I get the not so subtle jab on the, "Mediocrity," part, but what we have here is failure to communicate. We all want the Aztecs to go as far as they possibly can - to win as many games as possible and to look as impressive as possible doing it. We would all love to see the Aztecs get national respect as a playoff contender, but until there are 16 teams in the football playoff, or until we're in a P5 conference, that just isn't possible considering the way that NCAA football is rigged. Right now the team is doing much better than the Aztec teams of 1999-2009 were doing. The hope is that we can take it up to the next level (9 & 10 regular season wins with regularity). We can't get any farther than that, and we certainly won't get a P5 invite, until we do at least that. Market size along isn't going to get us that invite. So all we can do is win as many games as we can and win as many conference championships as we can in the meantime. We'll have a better idea about how good this team is this year after the Nevada and Boise games. Playing two FCS teams and beating them and winning the MWC will likely get us to a prime bowl. The MWC is close enough to as good as any other non P5 conference that we have a good chance. You seem to have a defeatist attitude. Right now the Mountain West is a joke. It was a very good conference, and then came the defections. What's left is a knockoff of the WAC at it's weakest. No BYU, no Utah, no TCU - this MWC is pretty unimpressive. There is no respect for the conference nationally, which would kill any hope of getting a New Year's Bowl unless we went undefeated, and I don't think anyone expects that any time soon. That's not a defeatist attitude, it's a realist's attitude. Look, we need to keep winning to keep any hopes of a Bowl game alive this year. The toughest part of our conference schedule is coming up. Wins in those games would mean a lot.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Oct 22, 2014 22:22:18 GMT -8
Uh, huh. Well, we all know that as long as we're in the Molehill West we're never going to get into a New Year's Bowl. The strength of schedule will always be held against us. I get the not so subtle jab on the, "Mediocrity," part, but what we have here is failure to communicate. We all want the Aztecs to go as far as they possibly can - to win as many games as possible and to look as impressive as possible doing it. We would all love to see the Aztecs get national respect as a playoff contender, but until there are 16 teams in the football playoff, or until we're in a P5 conference, that just isn't possible considering the way that NCAA football is rigged. Right now the team is doing much better than the Aztec teams of 1999-2009 were doing. The hope is that we can take it up to the next level (9 & 10 regular season wins with regularity). We can't get any farther than that, and we certainly won't get a P5 invite, until we do at least that. Market size along isn't going to get us that invite. So all we can do is win as many games as we can and win as many conference championships as we can in the meantime. We'll have a better idea about how good this team is this year after the Nevada and Boise games. Playing two FCS teams and beating them and winning the MWC will likely get us to a prime bowl. The MWC is close enough to as good as any other non P5 conference that we have a good chance. You seem to have a defeatist attitude. I don't think so. The four "prime bowls" you reference are the four major bowls (a step below the playoff bowls) which the Power5 conferences are going to be running (in collaboration with the various bowl committees, of course). As I understand it, the teams that will play in those major bowls will be 7 schools from the P5 conferences and the best of the G5 schools. The best G5 team each year will generally be one with at most one loss. I suppose a two loss G5 team might make it if its resume included a couple of impressive wins against P5 schools, but I'll bet that will not happen often, if at all. The point is that a G5 team, in order to play in one of those non-playoff major bowls is going to have to beat just about everybody. Splitting 4 non-conference games, going 7-1 in conference, then winning a conference championship game will result in an over-all record of 10-3. I just don't think that 10-3 is going to be the best record in the G5 very many years. The problem is that short of making one of the P5 non-playoff bowls, there just isn't any place interesting to play if you are a G5 school, which is what we are. I don't think that the Las Vegas Bowl impresses too many people. It's better than the Potato Bowl, but that's not saying much. If the Aztecs want to make a splash nationally, they are going to have to win out or at worst suffer a single loss. The latter would give SDSU a record of 12-1, which presupposes winning the MWC championship game. Now THAT would be impressive. Again I have to ask myself, How close are we to reaching that goal?AzWm
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Post by rebar619 on Oct 23, 2014 8:21:35 GMT -8
Playing two FCS teams and beating them and winning the MWC will likely get us to a prime bowl. The MWC is close enough to as good as any other non P5 conference that we have a good chance. You seem to have a defeatist attitude. I don't think so. The four "prime bowls" you reference are the four major bowls (a step below the playoff bowls) which the Power5 conferences are going to be running (in collaboration with the various bowl committees, of course). As I understand it, the teams that will play in those major bowls will be 7 schools from the P5 conferences and the best of the G5 schools. The best G5 team each year will generally be one with at most one loss. I suppose a two loss G5 team might make it if its resume included a couple of impressive wins against P5 schools, but I'll bet that will not happen often, if at all. The point is that a G5 team, in order to play in one of those non-playoff major bowls is going to have to beat just about everybody. Splitting 4 non-conference games, going 7-1 in conference, then winning a conference championship game will result in an over-all record of 10-3. I just don't think that 10-3 is going to be the best record in the G5 very many years. The problem is that short of making one of the P5 non-playoff bowls, there just isn't any place interesting to play if you are a G5 school, which is what we are. I don't think that the Las Vegas Bowl impresses too many people. It's better than the Potato Bowl, but that's not saying much. If the Aztecs want to make a splash nationally, they are going to have to win out or at worst suffer a single loss. The latter would give SDSU a record of 12-1, which presupposes winning the MWC championship game. Now THAT would be impressive. Again I have to ask myself, How close are we to reaching that goal?AzWm "How close are we to reaching that goal?" The answer to your question is Jake Rodriguez.
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 23, 2014 10:06:19 GMT -8
Playing two FCS teams and beating them and winning the MWC will likely get us to a prime bowl. The MWC is close enough to as good as any other non P5 conference that we have a good chance. You seem to have a defeatist attitude. I don't think so. The four "prime bowls" you reference are the four major bowls (a step below the playoff bowls) which the Power5 conferences are going to be running (in collaboration with the various bowl committees, of course). As I understand it, the teams that will play in those major bowls will be 7 schools from the P5 conferences and the best of the G5 schools. The best G5 team each year will generally be one with at most one loss. I suppose a two loss G5 team might make it if its resume included a couple of impressive wins against P5 schools, but I'll bet that will not happen often, if at all. The point is that a G5 team, in order to play in one of those non-playoff major bowls is going to have to beat just about everybody. Splitting 4 non-conference games, going 7-1 in conference, then winning a conference championship game will result in an over-all record of 10-3. I just don't think that 10-3 is going to be the best record in the G5 very many years. The problem is that short of making one of the P5 non-playoff bowls, there just isn't any place interesting to play if you are a G5 school, which is what we are. I don't think that the Las Vegas Bowl impresses too many people. It's better than the Potato Bowl, but that's not saying much. If the Aztecs want to make a splash nationally, they are going to have to win out or at worst suffer a single loss. The latter would give SDSU a record of 12-1, which presupposes winning the MWC championship game. Now THAT would be impressive. Again I have to ask myself, How close are we to reaching that goal?AzWm Now you are touting 10 wins as if that is a ceiling. What is with that? One G5 team will get a prime bowl every year. Why not us?
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Oct 23, 2014 12:43:43 GMT -8
I don't think so. The four "prime bowls" you reference are the four major bowls (a step below the playoff bowls) which the Power5 conferences are going to be running (in collaboration with the various bowl committees, of course). As I understand it, the teams that will play in those major bowls will be 7 schools from the P5 conferences and the best of the G5 schools. The best G5 team each year will generally be one with at most one loss. I suppose a two loss G5 team might make it if its resume included a couple of impressive wins against P5 schools, but I'll bet that will not happen often, if at all. The point is that a G5 team, in order to play in one of those non-playoff major bowls is going to have to beat just about everybody. Splitting 4 non-conference games, going 7-1 in conference, then winning a conference championship game will result in an over-all record of 10-3. I just don't think that 10-3 is going to be the best record in the G5 very many years. The problem is that short of making one of the P5 non-playoff bowls, there just isn't any place interesting to play if you are a G5 school, which is what we are. I don't think that the Las Vegas Bowl impresses too many people. It's better than the Potato Bowl, but that's not saying much. If the Aztecs want to make a splash nationally, they are going to have to win out or at worst suffer a single loss. The latter would give SDSU a record of 12-1, which presupposes winning the MWC championship game. Now THAT would be impressive. Again I have to ask myself, How close are we to reaching that goal?AzWm Now you are touting 10 wins as if that is a ceiling. What is with that? One G5 team will get a prime bowl every year. Why not us? Is that still guaranteed? Sent from my Admiral Mark 01 Telegraph machine via Sputnik with dial-up
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Post by legkick on Oct 23, 2014 12:47:38 GMT -8
Now you are touting 10 wins as if that is a ceiling. What is with that? One G5 team will get a prime bowl every year. Why not us? The highest rated G5 team in the Sagarin ratings is #31 Marshall at 7-0, out of Conference USA. Marshall's best out of conference win is against #97 Akron of the MAC; they did not play a P5 school in non-conference. Would you recommend the Aztecs dumbing down their schedule?
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 23, 2014 13:04:37 GMT -8
Now you are touting 10 wins as if that is a ceiling. What is with that? One G5 team will get a prime bowl every year. Why not us? The highest rated G5 team in the Sagarin ratings is #31 Marshall at 7-0, out of Conference USA. Marshall's best out of conference win is against #97 Akron of the MAC; they did not play a P5 school in non-conference. Would you recommend the Aztecs dumbing down their schedule? No. We should play like we have and beat those P5 Teams. If the Aztecs were good enough to play in a prime bowl, they would beat the NC and OSU's of the world. When we are ready we should not play a game for one of those paydays. We should play home and homes only. If we are ready in 2015 we will beat PSU and Cal. Next year the conference schedule is perfect: Home GamesFresno State Nevada Utah State Wyoming Road Games Colorado State Hawai'i San Jose State UNLV At Colorado State may be the toughest game. All the rest of the tough games are at home. At Hawaii can be difficult but doable. Cal and Penn State are not powers that can't be beat. If we have a capable team the schedule is good for Prime Bowl. 2016 at Fresno State, Nevada, Utah State, and Wyoming is very tough.
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Post by aztech on Oct 23, 2014 17:50:59 GMT -8
The highest rated G5 team in the Sagarin ratings is #31 Marshall at 7-0, out of Conference USA. Marshall's best out of conference win is against #97 Akron of the MAC; they did not play a P5 school in non-conference. Would you recommend the Aztecs dumbing down their schedule? No. We should play like we have and beat those P5 Teams. If the Aztecs were good enough to play in a prime bowl, they would beat the NC and OSU's of the world. When we are ready we should not play a game for one of those paydays. We should play home and homes only. If we are ready in 2015 we will beat PSU and Cal.
Next year the conference schedule is perfect: Home GamesFresno State Nevada Utah State Wyoming Road Games Colorado State Hawai'i San Jose State UNLV At Colorado State may be the toughest game. All the rest of the tough games are at home. At Hawaii can be difficult but doable. Cal and Penn State are not powers that can't be beat. If we have a capable team the schedule is good for Prime Bowl. 2016 at Fresno State, Nevada, Utah State, and Wyoming is very tough. Next year is when the stars will be aligned to beat PSU and Cal. Our performances against them will be a signal for how far Rocky will ever take us.
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Post by azteken on Oct 23, 2014 18:38:55 GMT -8
Winning 10 games is not our goal. Our goal is to play in a New Year's Bowl. That requires winning the MWC and being better than any other P5 champion. You are trying to settle for mediocrity. Uh, huh. Well, we all know that as long as we're in the Molehill West we're never going to get into a New Year's Bowl. The strength of schedule will always be held against us. I get the not so subtle jab on the, "Mediocrity," part, but what we have here is failure to communicate. We all want the Aztecs to go as far as they possibly can - to win as many games as possible and to look as impressive as possible doing it. We would all love to see the Aztecs get national respect as a playoff contender, but until there are 16 teams in the football playoff, or until we're in a P5 conference, that just isn't possible considering the way that NCAA football is rigged. Right now the team is doing much better than the Aztec teams of 1999-2009 were doing. The hope is that we can take it up to the next level (9 & 10 regular season wins with regularity). We can't get any farther than that, and we certainly won't get a P5 invite, until we do at least that. Market size along isn't going to get us that invite. So all we can do is win as many games as we can and win as many conference championships as we can in the meantime. We'll have a better idea about how good this team is this year after the Nevada and Boise games. Do you even know how the system works? Based on your comments, I don't think you do. Four teams will be in the playoff, with the first two rounds on New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl. In addition to those four, teams from the SEC, Big XII, B1G, ACC and Pac-12, plus the conference champion from MWC, AAC, MAC, C-USA or Sun Belt will play in the Peach Bowl, Fiesta Bowl or Cotton Bowl. The champ from any of the G5 conferences don't have a chance to get in the playoffs, but one is guaranteed a spot in a New Year's game. So it's really a two-horse race for that spot between the MWC and AAC. Yes, Marshall of C-USA will probably go 12-0, but they don't play a P5 team, or any good G5 either. If East Carolina wins the AAC, expect them to get the invite this year. However, if they lose another game and Colorado State wins out, the Rams could get the invite. Is the MWC as good as it had been? No, but it's not worse than the worst days of the WAC. The worst days of the WAC were when the 8 teams left to join the MWC. With three losses, I think the best we can do is the Las Vegas Bowl. We could still end up 11-3 by running the table on the rest of the season, MW Championship and Vegas Bowl wins. Unlike you, I am conceding nothing. The rest of the season starts in Reno on November 1. Go Aztecs! Edit: Here are the records of the G5 leaders prior to the games 10/24-25, along with wins over P5 teams: MW: Colorado State 6-1, Colorado, Boston College AAC: East Carolina 5-1, North Carolina, VA Tech C-USA: Marshall 7-0, (none) MAC: Northern Illinois 5-2, Northwestern Sun Belt: Georgia Southern 5-2, (none)
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Post by fanhood on Oct 23, 2014 19:07:02 GMT -8
Uh, huh. Well, we all know that as long as we're in the Molehill West we're never going to get into a New Year's Bowl. The strength of schedule will always be held against us. I get the not so subtle jab on the, "Mediocrity," part, but what we have here is failure to communicate. We all want the Aztecs to go as far as they possibly can - to win as many games as possible and to look as impressive as possible doing it. We would all love to see the Aztecs get national respect as a playoff contender, but until there are 16 teams in the football playoff, or until we're in a P5 conference, that just isn't possible considering the way that NCAA football is rigged. Right now the team is doing much better than the Aztec teams of 1999-2009 were doing. The hope is that we can take it up to the next level (9 & 10 regular season wins with regularity). We can't get any farther than that, and we certainly won't get a P5 invite, until we do at least that. Market size along isn't going to get us that invite. So all we can do is win as many games as we can and win as many conference championships as we can in the meantime. We'll have a better idea about how good this team is this year after the Nevada and Boise games. Do you even know how the system works? Based on your comments, I don't think you do. Four teams will be in the playoff, with the first two rounds on New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl. In addition to those four, teams from the SEC, Big XII, B1G, ACC and Pac-12, plus the conference champion from MWC, AAC, MAC, C-USA or Sun Belt will play in the Peach Bowl, Fiesta Bowl or Cotton Bowl. The champ from any of the G5 conferences don't have a chance to get in the playoffs, but one is guaranteed a spot in a New Year's game. So it's really a two-horse race for that spot between the MWC and AAC. Yes, Marshall of C-USA will probably go 12-0, but they don't play a P5 team, or any good G5 either. If East Carolina wins the AAC, expect them to get the invite this year. However, if they lose another game and Colorado State wins out, the Rams could get the invite. Is the MWC as good as it had been? No, but it's not worse than the worst days of the WAC. The worst days of the WAC were when the 8 teams left to join the MWC. With three losses, I think the best we can do is the Las Vegas Bowl. We could still end up 11-3 by running the table on the rest of the season, MW Championship and Vegas Bowl wins. Unlike you, I am conceding nothing. The rest of the season starts in Reno on November 1. Go Aztecs! Edit: Here are the records of the G5 leaders prior to the games 10/24-25, along with wins over P5 teams: MW: Colorado State 6-1, Colorado, Boston College AAC: East Carolina 5-1, North Carolina, VA Tech C-USA: Marshall 7-0, (none) MAC: Northern Illinois 5-2, Northwestern Sun Belt: Georgia Southern 5-2, (none) Azteken, nice post. It would have been nice to see ECU lose tonight to UCONN, but alas it was not to be. If ECU loses to anyone other than UCF, you can assume that the MW is back in the race for the Access Bowl. Furthermore, if SDSU wins out, and ECU loses a game, as does UCF, it is perfectly reasonable for us to get in. Additionally, if Boise wins out, they may get in. The season starts November 1st. We can certainly win out, but we could also lose the rest of our games. Go Aztecs, I am confident. I love our team, and love the way we run the ball in Offense and fly to the ball on Defense.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 23, 2014 20:55:22 GMT -8
Uh, huh. Well, we all know that as long as we're in the Molehill West we're never going to get into a New Year's Bowl. The strength of schedule will always be held against us. I get the not so subtle jab on the, "Mediocrity," part, but what we have here is failure to communicate. We all want the Aztecs to go as far as they possibly can - to win as many games as possible and to look as impressive as possible doing it. We would all love to see the Aztecs get national respect as a playoff contender, but until there are 16 teams in the football playoff, or until we're in a P5 conference, that just isn't possible considering the way that NCAA football is rigged. Right now the team is doing much better than the Aztec teams of 1999-2009 were doing. The hope is that we can take it up to the next level (9 & 10 regular season wins with regularity). We can't get any farther than that, and we certainly won't get a P5 invite, until we do at least that. Market size along isn't going to get us that invite. So all we can do is win as many games as we can and win as many conference championships as we can in the meantime. We'll have a better idea about how good this team is this year after the Nevada and Boise games. Do you even know how the system works? Based on your comments, I don't think you do. I don't think you understood what I meant. The system is rigged against the G5 schools MONETARILY. The P5 schools have literally TEN TIMES the money coming in that the G5 schools have. That gives them a huge advantage in just about every way. SDSU plays in a terrible conference that gets zero respect outside of it's own borders. That's just the reality. You never see MWC highlights on ESPN unless it's a game against a P5 team or if it's one of only two or three games on a Thursday or Friday night. Why? Because no one outside of the MWC borders cares about MWC teams. We need to focus on dominating this conference and then hope that we get an invite, otherwise the most we can realistically hope for is to be a big fish in a small pond. Utah and TCU got invites because the MWC was much more respected then. It hadn't become The WAC Part II yet. Getting out of this conference is going to be difficult at best. Geography doesn't help since our natural conference doesn't want us (or, more accurately, USC, UCLA, and the Arizona schools don't want us), so that may leave us with only the Big 12, and they need another school in the West like us. Would they see taking on two MWC teams as diluting their own conference? Maybe, maybe not - but all we can do is make dominating this conference and winning as many games as we can the goal for the forseeable future. We can dominate this conference. We can be one of the elite in the MWC. (That may not be saying much from a national perspective, but it's the most we can do for now - and it is something we can do.)
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Post by azteken on Oct 24, 2014 9:03:48 GMT -8
Do you even know how the system works? Based on your comments, I don't think you do. I don't think you understood what I meant. The system is rigged against the G5 schools MONETARILY. The P5 schools have literally TEN TIMES the money coming in that the G5 schools have. That gives them a huge advantage in just about every way. SDSU plays in a terrible conference that gets zero respect outside of it's own borders. That's just the reality. You never see MWC highlights on ESPN unless it's a game against a P5 team or if it's one of only two or three games on a Thursday or Friday night. Why? Because no one outside of the MWC borders cares about MWC teams. We need to focus on dominating this conference and then hope that we get an invite, otherwise the most we can realistically hope for is to be a big fish in a small pond. Utah and TCU got invites because the MWC was much more respected then. It hadn't become The WAC Part II yet. Getting out of this conference is going to be difficult at best. Geography doesn't help since our natural conference doesn't want us (or, more accurately, USC, UCLA, and the Arizona schools don't want us), so that may leave us with only the Big 12, and they need another school in the West like us. Would they see taking on two MWC teams as diluting their own conference? Maybe, maybe not - but all we can do is make dominating this conference and winning as many games as we can the goal for the forseeable future. We can dominate this conference. We can be one of the elite in the MWC. (That may not be saying much from a national perspective, but it's the most we can do for now - and it is something we can do.) Let me see if I understand. When you say "New Year's Day game," you really mean playoff. I agree that we won't get in the playoff. Neither will the champion of the Big XII, B1G, ACC or Pac-12 (no way the SEC champ gets left out). If you want to be understood, I recommend you use the correct terminology. I wouldn't say the MWC is a terrible conference. It's not good, but it's not terrible. My definition of a terrible conference is the Sun Belt. The MWC top-to-bottom is far better than the SBC. It's also better than C-USA and the MAC. Yes, I'd love to be in a P5 conference, and I think we will be one day by virtue of the size of the San Diego market. But right now we're not, so we need to take advantage of what we can, which in our case is a New Year's Day bowl. Unfortunately, we don't control our own destiny. We need ECU and UCF to both not win the AAC, and for us to win out, including the MWC championship game. I know you fancy yourself as a realist. Actually you are a pessimist. A realist would realize the situation we are in and try to make the best of it. I'm an optimist. I'm ready for us to run the table and get to the Vegas Bowl. The next step is eight days away. Go Aztecs!
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Post by SDAztec on Oct 24, 2014 9:28:55 GMT -8
Big Picture...
SDSU needs to take care of what it can control and that is winning the conference and building the talent to beat the P5 OOC teams. I honestly think they are 1 player away from that (QB), and conference championship with a win over say Penn St next year will bring in even more exposure and better recruits.
Because of the new format, the Big XIII will need to expand in the next 3 years in order to get access to the playoff system. The Big XII is just taking it's time looking at the options... SDSU is already in a good position with the SD market, recruiting potential, and a top national basketball program. The other sports are doing extremely well, and a couple of conference championships and wins over some P5 schools will make SDSU an extremely attractive addition to the Big XII.
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 24, 2014 10:27:12 GMT -8
Big Picture... SDSU needs to take care of what it can control and that is winning the conference and building the talent to beat the P5 OOC teams. I honestly think they are 1 player away from that (QB), and conference championship with a win over say Penn St next year will bring in even more exposure and better recruits. Because of the new format, the Big XIII will need to expand in the next 3 years in order to get access to the playoff system. The Big XII is just taking it's time looking at the options... SDSU is already in a good position with the SD market, recruiting potential, and a top national basketball program. The other sports are doing extremely well, and a couple of conference championships and wins over some P5 schools will make SDSU an extremely attractive addition to the Big XII. One thing that is often overlooked is that with our add to the Big XII, they add a Pacific time zone team. That opens a new time slot for their network. That adds half our conference games and with the new money 3 out of 4 OOC games will be at home. 7 PST games.
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