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Post by uncledougy on Oct 30, 2014 8:35:31 GMT -8
all any program needs is a good college quarterback, and a stout defense. Look at what Boise did a few years ago. IFwe can develop a QB, we'll be on our way. That's a big IF. Agreed. How hard can it be to recruit one decent high school quarterback to freakin' San Diego? We have the best QB the program will ever see coming in next year, so your theory will be put to the test. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 9:09:11 GMT -8
Best coach SDSU has ever had? REALLY?
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Post by AzTex on Oct 30, 2014 14:30:57 GMT -8
Best coach SDSU has ever had? REALLY? He's young, be gentle. People who weren't around during the Coryell and Gilbert days have very little to compare coaches with. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 30, 2014 14:50:47 GMT -8
Best coach SDSU has ever had? REALLY? He's young, be gentle. People who weren't around during the Coryell and Gilbert days have very little to compare coaches with. Well, we know for sure that he's the best coach named Long in Aztec history. (And certainly the best HC since 1996.) |
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Post by fisherville on Oct 30, 2014 15:05:47 GMT -8
ahhhh, what do you know. The overwhelming majority sees Rocky Long as the guy that will take us to the next level. I would argue that he already has, and will continue to grow the program. You would lose that argument every time. Between 2011 and 2014 SDSU has simply been consistently mediocre. |
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Oct 30, 2014 16:07:33 GMT -8
Since we are on this topic, why do I have this "25% warning" in my profile. I still think the guy I called an idiot a few months back is indeed an idiot. So why was I warned? :-) K5James has his quality/professional Aztec site going well and needs a few more high quality posters! http:// .com/ Sent from my Admiral Mark 01 Telegraph machine via Sputnik with dial-up |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 16:10:51 GMT -8
Best coach SDSU has ever had? REALLY? He's young, be gentle. People who weren't around during the Coryell and Gilbert days have very little to compare coaches with. So noted. |
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Post by Montezumas Revenge 88 on Oct 30, 2014 17:08:24 GMT -8
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Post by sdcoug on Oct 30, 2014 17:20:25 GMT -8
Good article & very true. For those who are obsessed with comparing today to the Faulk days (or any "glory past"), IT'S A DIFFERENT ERA. College football is completely different from then, or even from the early 2000's. The only years which are relevant are the years HS recruits have been following college football, which for most is the last 8 years or so. SDSU is better than those first 4 years, and has been solid over the past 4+. |
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Post by montyismyhomie on Oct 30, 2014 20:38:44 GMT -8
ahhhh, what do you know. The overwhelming majority sees Rocky Long as the guy that will take us to the next level. I would argue that he already has, and will continue to grow the program. You would lose that argument every time. Between 2011 and 2014 SDSU has simply been consistently mediocre. Totally subjective argument so doesn't really matter. |
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Post by vision on Oct 31, 2014 10:52:14 GMT -8
Best coach SDSU has ever had? REALLY? Yes really. Please tell me who was better? Who has taken the team to more bowl games in the DivisionI/FBS era? |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 31, 2014 11:15:21 GMT -8
Best coach SDSU has ever had? REALLY? Yes really. Please tell me who was better? Who has taken the team to more bowl games in the DivisionI/FBS era? Ever hear of Don Coryell or Claude Gilbert? Don had the only undefeated Aztec teams in the D1 era, and Gilbert had two consecutive 10-1 seasons, one of which included a blowout win over Florida State. You've got to remember that there were only about 16 Bowl games back then. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 31, 2014 11:44:12 GMT -8
This poll is silly, because name one other time SDSU played in four straight bowl games.
He's already taken us to new heights.
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Post by montyismyhomie on Oct 31, 2014 12:28:26 GMT -8
Yes really. Please tell me who was better? Who has taken the team to more bowl games in the DivisionI/FBS era? Ever hear of Don Coryell or Claude Gilbert? Don had the only undefeated Aztec teams in the D1 era, and Gilbert had two consecutive 10-1 seasons, one of which included a blowout win over Florida State. You've got to remember that there were only about 16 Bowl games back then. Yeh let's not go too far. Rocky is not the best coach we've ever had. That title will likely belong to Coryell forever. Not even sure Rocky is at 3rd yet on that list. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 12:45:29 GMT -8
Best coach SDSU has ever had? REALLY? Yes really. Please tell me who was better? Who has taken the team to more bowl games in the DivisionI/FBS era? SDSU's coaches in the FBS era: Tom Craft, Chuck Long, Brady Hoke, Rocky Long. To say Rocky is better than the first two is the height of feint praise and Brady was only around two years. Of course, "ever" goes back a lot further than Tom Craft and Rocky isn't even remotely close to Don Coryell. Even Rocky would readily concede that. Further, I would argue he hasn't done as good a job as Claude Gilbert either. And although Rocky's record is certainly better than Ted Tollner's was, the WAC Ted coached in in the mid-nineties was a significantly better conference than the present Molehill West. Despite that, in 1996, Ted beat four teams with winning records in an 11-game season plus Oklahoma. In each of the last two years, Rocky beat two teams with a winning record in 13 games. As Stephen, who more than anybody here has had close contact with the program would say, Ted retired on the job his last three seasons. However, during Ted's first five, although less consistent than Rocky, he did as good a job overall. |
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Post by sandwichthief on Nov 1, 2014 0:51:15 GMT -8
This is not the same era that Boise was able to make a name for them self. In fact, us beating them almost hurts their aura and prestige. We won't be taken seriously unless we have a 0-1 loss season, and I am not sure that is reasonable. I agree we can list all the reasons we SHOULD be able to do that, local, tv market, etc etc... it doesn't matter. We lose out to USC/UCLA every time... it is the nature of the beast. I am as frustrated as anybody, I would LOVE use to move to any other conference (P5, not AAC) but I do not seeing it happen, sadly.
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Post by aztecsiggy on Nov 9, 2014 21:26:37 GMT -8
Just wanted to remind people of the results of this poll. Just sayin |
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Post by Gundo on Nov 9, 2014 21:34:47 GMT -8
Rocky needs a DC, time to move into the 21st century.
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Post by sdsudevil on Nov 9, 2014 21:49:13 GMT -8
I feel we are getting what we pay for. I don't think he has built a program, as it is far more than just a couple wins that were expected. It is the over the hump wins that are frequent enough to not be called "over the hump", it is engaging the alumni, and getting a response, it is institutional change that sets a bedrock that will take a long time to alter. He has gotten us wins, but nothing yet to say that he has really transcended the job. He has done a good job, and has earned his pay.
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Post by aztech on Nov 9, 2014 22:12:56 GMT -8
Ever hear of Don Coryell or Claude Gilbert? Don had the only undefeated Aztec teams in the D1 era, and Gilbert had two consecutive 10-1 seasons, one of which included a blowout win over Florida State. You've got to remember that there were only about 16 Bowl games back then. Yeh let's not go too far. Rocky is not the best coach we've ever had. That title will likely belong to Coryell forever. Not even sure Rocky is at 3rd yet on that list. If I were to compare Rocky to any of our previous coaches, I'd say it's Lugie. It was a different era then, but he won just as Rocky is doing now. The similarity is that he just couldn't get over that hump to take us to the next level. |
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