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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 16:41:58 GMT -8
Rocky Retread is safe, as long as we have Sterky and Hirshy. Those two have minimal interest in football--in my opinion. Didn't take long for the negativists to come out of the woodwork again. In reality, the PAC 12 has overall better football players than we do. We get three or four recruits a year with offers to PAC 12 bottom teams only and that's the way it is in the MWC. That said, on balance, we are the best we've EVER been in terms of overall talent and, as Jim Herrick, aptly put it, "the best thing that Brady Hoke did for SDSU was to leave us with Rocky." I look for a resurgent season now that we are in conference. And by the way, it is absurd for anyone who follows college athletics to state the president and AD don't care about football. Football is the do all and end all financially. Basketball is a poor second. What you state here is not your "opinion," it is your lack of comprehension of reality, if you are serious that is. The only ones who really dont care about SDSU football keeping saying our stadium is not an issue. If they had a clue they would know that getting and holding onto that dream coach means serious investment....just like it did for BB. So if you want a top tier coach one of your top concerns should be facilities....
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Post by stevelaztec on Sept 22, 2014 16:44:09 GMT -8
IMO
Rocky is safe.
Toledo will be back if he wants too.
Brady? Probably gone unless does real well in conf. and I don't see that happening.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 22, 2014 18:14:41 GMT -8
Rocky Retread is safe, as long as we have Sterky and Hirshy. Those two have minimal interest in football--in my opinion. Didn't take long for the negativists to come out of the woodwork again. In reality, the PAC 12 has overall better football players than we do. We get three or four recruits a year with offers to PAC 12 bottom teams only and that's the way it is in the MWC. That said, on balance, we are the best we've EVER been in terms of overall talent and, as Jim Herrick, aptly put it, "the best thing that Brady Hoke did for SDSU was to leave us with Rocky." I look for a resurgent season now that we are in conference. And by the way, it is absurd for anyone who follows college athletics to state the president and AD don't care about football. Football is the do all and end all financially. Basketball is a poor second. What you state here is not your "opinion," it is your lack of comprehension of reality, if you are serious that is. So, you jump on your pedagogic soap box, with utterly no facts, in a vain and vacuous attempt to attack my opinion? I think you may have dropped out of college too soon. Or high school?
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Post by phantom on Sept 22, 2014 18:32:11 GMT -8
Every team goes through cycles. They often go from being an upperclassman team to a reloading underclassmen dominated team and then about two years later, an upperclassman team again and on and on.
This year's team is extremely young outsides of the jr heavy O and D line. Programs like ours need to catch lighting in a bottle to move to a next level. Often that includes a combination of unusually talented (for our program) group of upperclassmen along w/ a special, once in a couple of years type of QB and/or skill player(s).
Everything is pointing for next year to be that sort of perfect storm. By all accounts, Jake Rodrigues AND Nick Bawden can be that special, record breaking NFl talent QB. Every one of this past weekend's Oline starters return along with damn near everyone on both the O and D two deep outside of a few players. On top of that, last years strong recruiting class and this year's potentially just as good if not better class will continue providing more size and speed. IMO, if Rocky doesnt have that magical 11+ wins next year, get rid of him. He's brought us to the highest level of consistency in years however we have clearly plateaued and if we have a similar, 9-3 type of record next year, it would be undeniable and time for a fresh start.
He's not going to get more money to hire better coaches. He isn't going to create a buzz or energy that renews interest from fans or recruits. I compare next year to Fisher's last year with Kawahi, Thomas, and White. If he didnt pull it off w/ that group, then he never would. Same with Rock. He's a good solid coach but if he can't pull it off w/ next year's best oline, QB, dline, lb, and DB group in years, then he's never going to do it.
(Sorry for the essay, blame the Guinness)
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Post by aztecfan1 on Sept 22, 2014 19:22:45 GMT -8
Didn't take long for the negativists to come out of the woodwork again. In reality, the PAC 12 has overall better football players than we do. We get three or four recruits a year with offers to PAC 12 bottom teams only and that's the way it is in the MWC. That said, on balance, we are the best we've EVER been in terms of overall talent and, as Jim Herrick, aptly put it, "the best thing that Brady Hoke did for SDSU was to leave us with Rocky." I look for a resurgent season now that we are in conference. And by the way, it is absurd for anyone who follows college athletics to state the president and AD don't care about football. Football is the do all and end all financially. Basketball is a poor second. What you state here is not your "opinion," it is your lack of comprehension of reality, if you are serious that is. So, you jump on your pedagogic soap box, with utterly no facts, in a vain and vacuous attempt to attack my opinion? I think you may have dropped out of college too soon. Or high school? And when we read you referring to the people who lead a great university as "sterky" and "hershy" it gives the impression we are reading the dribble of an 11 year old.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 22, 2014 19:44:47 GMT -8
So, you jump on your pedagogic soap box, with utterly no facts, in a vain and vacuous attempt to attack my opinion? I think you may have dropped out of college too soon. Or high school? And when we read you referring to the people who lead a great university as "sterky" and "hershy" it gives the impression we are reading the dribble of an 11 year old. Fair enough. We both now have a firm grasp of the meaning of "opinions". You're welcome.
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Post by junior on Oct 4, 2014 9:21:22 GMT -8
Rocky's up to three votes now. I bet it's more after last night's debacle.
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Post by Simsonic on Oct 4, 2014 9:42:01 GMT -8
Michigan doesn't accept mediocrity. SDSU Football does.
Hoke was better off playing the us against them card with smaller teams. His style of coaching just doesn't work with blue chip recruits. It does with guys with a chip on their shoulder.
Long is who he is. He is an average coach with an average system. His kids play hard for him, but his outcomes will always be average. That's it. Accept it. Love it. Hate it. But realize, that this is what we have to live with for the next four years, until we (the admin) is sick of 8-5 and 7-6 and 9-4 in a crap conference.
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Post by myownwords on Oct 4, 2014 9:46:24 GMT -8
Michigan doesn't accept mediocrity. SDSU Football does. Hoke was better off playing the us against them card with smaller teams. His style of coaching just doesn't work with blue chip recruits. It does with guys with a chip on their shoulder. Long is who he is. He is an average coach with an average system. His kids play hard for him, but his outcomes will always be average. That's it. Accept it. Love it. Hate it. But realize, that this is what we have to live with for the next four years, until we (the admin) is sick of 8-5 and 7-6 and 9-4 in a crap conference. Or until a significant booster or three, step in and force the AD's hand.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 11:07:15 GMT -8
Rocky's up to three votes now. Wow! THREE? Damn!
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Post by junior on Oct 4, 2014 11:10:14 GMT -8
Some are beginning to pull their heads out of their…
sandboxes.
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Post by legkick on Oct 4, 2014 11:23:48 GMT -8
It must really suck when your biases aren't confirmed.
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Post by bearfoot on Oct 4, 2014 11:34:56 GMT -8
Who will go first, Hokey-Pokey or Rocky Wrong? BH Hands down
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Post by bearfoot on Oct 4, 2014 11:36:13 GMT -8
Michigan doesn't accept mediocrity. SDSU Football does. Hoke was better off playing the us against them card with smaller teams. His style of coaching just doesn't work with blue chip recruits. It does with guys with a chip on their shoulder. Long is who he is. He is an average coach with an average system. His kids play hard for him, but his outcomes will always be average. That's it. Accept it. Love it. Hate it. But realize, that this is what we have to live with for the next four years, until we (the admin) is sick of 8-5 and 7-6 and 9-4 in a crap conference. The trail of Brady Hoke certainly follows the Peter Principle.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 12:26:52 GMT -8
I'm pleased that 74 people have taken the time to vote. 'Cause once fans start ignoring SDSU football as was almost the case before UPCHUCK Long was mercifully shown the door, we'll be in deep $#!+.
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Post by aztecvatar on Oct 4, 2014 13:00:46 GMT -8
I'd love to vote for Rocky, but we all know SDSU celebrates mediocrity. There is no way Hoke survives this season, so I'm selecting the easy choice.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Oct 4, 2014 18:53:35 GMT -8
I'd love to vote for Rocky, but we all know SDSU celebrates mediocrity. There is no way Hoke survives this season, so I'm selecting the easy choice. Buzzards will start circling over Ann Arbor any day now.
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Post by Den60 on Oct 4, 2014 19:14:24 GMT -8
I do expect Hoke to be available (likely very soon after yet another loss) but I don't expect him to be asked to come back here.
He will get another coaching gig for next year.
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Post by zurac315 on Oct 4, 2014 19:26:45 GMT -8
Michigan just lost again. This time to Rutgers. Wow.
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Post by sdsu4lifealmost on Oct 4, 2014 20:55:30 GMT -8
I have always been adamant about my love for Rocky, however he needs to be tougher on his supporting coaching staff, because they are costing us a lot of games that otherwise would be a win. Toledo is on my "Next to Fire," list, as he lacks creativity, balls (for lack of a better word), and good execution. Rocky is a good defensive coach, and the recruits are solid, but something in the coaching staff needs to change. Toledo has cost us two games at this point in the season and believe he needs to be replaced. Even with a ill performed QB in the last game his play calling is questionable, and his lack of leadership to teach the kids to execute them is suspect. Rocky needs to replace Toledo to salvage this season.
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