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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Sept 20, 2014 21:57:27 GMT -8
We were the better team against UNC and let that game slip away. Oregon State was clearly the better team tonight. Much easier schedule ahead. We won't face anymore NFL caliber QB's. And that linebacker crew is the best will will face as well. Losing Ruffin has really hurt the offense. I think 8 or 9 wins is likely. Good thing SDSU plays in a bad conference. True I guess, but if SDSU played in a better conference it would be able to attract better players.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 20, 2014 22:10:59 GMT -8
They have real coaches, we have caretakers. They have players, we don't have enough of them. Every year it is the same $hit cause we don't have the horses to compete for 60 min. What gets me is that f'ing Boise has done it in the past. Why the hell can't we? It drives me mad. We don't have coaches who inspire recruits, or fans, or are able to bring them up a level. To me, it's that simple. Until that changes, we are headed for a permanent football cul-de-sac.
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Post by aztecjake on Sept 20, 2014 22:25:15 GMT -8
Rinse and repeat. Rocky is the perfect guy for us at this level. We will probably end up with 8 regular season wins and a minor Bowl game appearance. And we will still be in the exact same place we've been in for the last four years. We don't have a Steve Fisher leading this program. We've got a guy who has never, ever done better. He's a solid coach, and he will make sure that this team plays competitively in conference, but Rocky just isn't the coach to elevate this program. I will be very disappointed if we lose more than one more game. If we do, the season will be a failure - a failure to progress. A failure to improve. Nine regular season wins AND a Bowl win would be OK. Not great, but OK. Eight wins or less in the regular season will be disappointing given where this team has been for the last four years.
From what I observed tonight, against a mediocre P5 team, 7 more wins will be a challenge for this Aztec team. Not saying that it is impossible, but gaining 7 more regular season wins will be difficult for this team.
I question your statement that Rocky is the "perfect" guy for us at this level. If this team has the talent that I believe that it does, then Rocky is either not playing the best players at each individual position, or he is not seeing that players are being comprehensively developed at skilled positions. Therefore, it becomes somewhat of a narcissistic coaching staff, that may be standing in the way of progress of this team's players. I hope he can preserve or even boost confidence in this team, and they can move forward, learning from the many mistakes made tonight. Motivation and sound leadership has become of utmost importance after this beat-down. As a strong supporter and fan of SDSU athletics, stasis is not acceptable, and it has come of time that we start to accelerate this football program. One win in the last 27 outings against a P5 school is demoralizing, a term that was used by the announcers several times throughout the game tonight as they described the treatment that OSU was delivering SDSU.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 20, 2014 22:26:54 GMT -8
Rinse and repeat. Rocky is the perfect guy for us at this level. We will probably end up with 8 regular season wins and a minor Bowl game appearance. And we will still be in the exact same place we've been in for the last four years. We don't have a Steve Fisher leading this program. We've got a guy who has never, ever done better. He's a solid coach, and he will make sure that this team plays competitively in conference, but Rocky just isn't the coach to elevate this program. I will be very disappointed if we lose more than one more game. If we do, the season will be a failure - a failure to progress. A failure to improve. Nine regular season wins AND a Bowl win would be OK. Not great, but OK. Eight wins or less in the regular season will be disappointing given where this team has been for the last four years. The season already is a disappointment. I say that because we know we can compete in the MWC. The problem is, competing in the MWC is not enough to elevate this program. It's possible that nothing will ever be enough to do that, since my guess is that the P5 conferences will soon decide that they have enough members, pretty much eliminating SDSU's chance of getting a promotion. And, let's not forget, we have lost plenty of games to questionable MWC schools over the last few years. Basically, there are a couple of decent teams a year; Boise and one other. We should seldom do worse than 7-1 in conference games given the woeful level of competition. The fact that, like last year, we have to scratch and claw to beat some of the wood pushers in conference tells you that we are far from where we want to be. As for the program as a whole, we simply do not attract enough outstanding players. We get a fair number who have decent talent and can be coached to contribute effectively. What we don't get are the outstanding guys, such as Mannion for Oregon State, who are superior coming through the door and mostly need only game experience to excel. AzWm
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 20, 2014 22:29:01 GMT -8
They have real coaches, we have caretakers. They have players, we don't have enough of them. Every year it is the same $hit cause we don't have the horses to compete for 60 min. What gets me is that f'ing Boise has done it in the past. Why the hell can't we? It drives me mad. Boy, you said it! AzWm
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 20, 2014 22:32:10 GMT -8
They have real coaches, we have caretakers. They have players, we don't have enough of them. Every year it is the same $hit cause we don't have the horses to compete for 60 min. What gets me is that f'ing Boise has done it in the past. Why the hell can't we? It drives me mad. Yes, but Boise isn't doing it anymore. TV money has taken over, and it is more apparent now than ever. Dollars buy depth. Depth in coaching, training and in recruits.
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 20, 2014 22:33:26 GMT -8
Good thing SDSU plays in a bad conference. True I guess, but if SDSU played in a better conference it would be able to attract better players. All of the Pac 12 teams got about 18 million from TV, we got what? 3?
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Post by Gundo on Sept 20, 2014 22:39:56 GMT -8
We were the better team against UNC and let that game slip away. Oregon State was clearly the better team tonight. Much easier schedule ahead. We won't face anymore NFL caliber QB's. And that linebacker crew is the best will will face as well. Losing Ruffin has really hurt the offense. I think 8 or 9 wins is likely. Good thing SDSU plays in a bad conference. Agreed, lets just play MWC games and feel good about our program. (Sarcasm.)
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Post by wolfstartec on Sept 20, 2014 22:42:00 GMT -8
Rinse and repeat. Rocky is the perfect guy for us at this level. We will probably end up with 8 regular season wins and a minor Bowl game appearance. And we will still be in the exact same place we've been in for the last four years. We don't have a Steve Fisher leading this program. We've got a guy who has never, ever done better. He's a solid coach, and he will make sure that this team plays competitively in conference, but Rocky just isn't the coach to elevate this program. I will be very disappointed if we lose more than one more game. If we do, the season will be a failure - a failure to progress. A failure to improve. Nine regular season wins AND a Bowl win would be OK. Not great, but OK. Eight wins or less in the regular season will be disappointing given where this team has been for the last four years.
From what I observed tonight, against a mediocre P5 team, 7 more wins will be a challenge for this Aztec team. Not saying that it is impossible, but gaining 7 more regular season wins will be difficult for this team.
I question your statement that Rocky is the "perfect" guy for us at this level. If this team has the talent that I believe that it does, then Rocky is either not playing the best players at each individual position, or he is not seeing that players are being comprehensively developed at skilled positions. Therefore, it becomes somewhat of a narcissistic coaching staff, that may be standing in the way of progress of this team's players. I hope he can preserve or even boost confidence in this team, and they can move forward, learning from the many mistakes made tonight. Motivation and sound leadership has become of utmost importance after this beat-down. As a strong supporter and fan of SDSU athletics, stasis is not acceptable, and it has come of time that we start to accelerate this football program. One win in the last 27 outings against a P5 school is demoralizing, a term that was used by the announcers several times throughout the game tonight as they described the treatment that OSU was delivering SDSU. Michigan's Hoke will soon be available...heck NO.
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Post by AztecCamera on Sept 20, 2014 22:59:22 GMT -8
If we lose to UNLV, yes it would be time to press the panic button.
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Post by buckeyedad on Sept 20, 2014 23:02:20 GMT -8
The team should win most of their games from here on out.....another way to put it is: Now that there are zero teams on our schedule that can create any fan interest, we should be able to compete.
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Post by Gundo on Sept 20, 2014 23:38:47 GMT -8
Before today's game here are the conference records vs P5 teams, there is such a divide between G5 and P5 schools that there is no debate. I'll need to update this chart based on today's scores.
ACC 8-5 .615 Big 10 2-9 .182 Big 12 5-6 .455 PAC 12 7-4 .636 SEC 10-6 .625 Indy's 3-2 .600 AAC 2-9 .182 CUSA 0-14 .000 MAC 3-13 .188 MWC 3-13 .188 SBC 1-8 .111
BTW the Big 10 sucks as well, speed and athleticism beats slow and big, ground and pound football.
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Post by aztech on Sept 21, 2014 0:36:14 GMT -8
we can compete. we are not playing bad. I think Oregon State is just playing extremely well. Yeah I know UNC turned out to be a bad team, but I thought our team played with more intensity against them than Oregon State. I think that UNC loss hasn't totally left their minds.
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Post by fanhood on Sept 21, 2014 0:52:21 GMT -8
Guys, I know we are all frustrated by the fact that we start season's slow and seemingly cannot get over the hump. With that, we are going to finish 9-3, and will have a great QB competition going into next year. Enjoy it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 4:57:39 GMT -8
Enjoy what? Our team doesn't start slow. This isn't a boxer who takes a few rounds to feel out his opponent and get comfortable. We play better during conference play because the bar is so much lower.
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Post by fanhood on Sept 21, 2014 5:33:48 GMT -8
Enjoy what? Our team doesn't start slow. This isn't a boxer who takes a few rounds to feel out his opponent and get comfortable. We play better during conference play because the bar is so much lower. Yea, I got it. That will never change though. This is not basketball. Be happy with 8 or 9 win seasons, and competing for Conference Championships. Once over three or four years we'll have a team that can win 10 or 11.
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Post by gocoaztec on Sept 21, 2014 5:53:32 GMT -8
A disappointing game, for sure. But, the defense was about what I expected against the best QB that we will see this year. In fact, if you said "28" before the game, I would have taken it. The special teams also did their job. The offense was a disappointment, and it's not all on QK. We needed to stay with the run and go for it on 4th down. QK had no time to throw on most plays. He missed open receivers on a few plays that he did have enough time.
It was an poor day for our offense from HC/OC on down. The inability to stay on the field put too much pressure on our defense. We went in knowing that we needed ball control, but couldn't deliver.
We will go as far as our running backs can take us.
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Post by mySTRAS on Sept 21, 2014 6:31:54 GMT -8
A disappointing game, for sure. But, the defense was about what I expected against the best QB that we will see this year. In fact, if you said "28" before the game, I would have taken it. The special teams also did their job. The offense was a disappointment, and it's not all on QK. We needed to stay with the run and go for it on 4th down. QK had no time to throw on most plays. He missed open receivers on a few plays that he did have enough time. It was an poor day for our offense from HC/OC on down. The inability to stay on the field put too much pressure on our defense. We went in knowing that we needed ball control, but couldn't deliver. We will go as far as our running backs can take us. If we're being completely honest... OSU took their foot off the gas pedal. Otherwise would have easily scored 35 or 42 (even after having lost their best WR to injury).
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Post by laaztec on Sept 21, 2014 7:13:54 GMT -8
Guys, I know we are all frustrated by the fact that we start season's slow and seemingly cannot get over the hump. With that, we are going to finish 9-3, and will have a great QB competition going into next year. Enjoy it. The reason SDSU starts the season slow every year is because they play P5 teams. No mystery there.
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Post by laaztec on Sept 21, 2014 7:14:29 GMT -8
A disappointing game, for sure. But, the defense was about what I expected against the best QB that we will see this year. In fact, if you said "28" before the game, I would have taken it. The special teams also did their job. The offense was a disappointment, and it's not all on QK. We needed to stay with the run and go for it on 4th down. QK had no time to throw on most plays. He missed open receivers on a few plays that he did have enough time. It was an poor day for our offense from HC/OC on down. The inability to stay on the field put too much pressure on our defense. We went in knowing that we needed ball control, but couldn't deliver. We will go as far as our running backs can take us. If we're being completely honest... OSU took their foot off the gas pedal. Otherwise would have easily scored 35 or 42 (even after having lost their best WR to injury). Yes. Riley didn't want to embarrass SDSU.
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