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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 24, 2014 8:06:50 GMT -8
So it begins. www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/aug/24/peace-qualcomm-stadium-sdsu-convention-downtown/$300M to buy the Q site. State may be able to buy the site, develop it for a West Campus, renovate the stadium, and have control. 1. State can use eminent domain and there would not need to be a vote on the sale. 2. Politically allowing one of the best assets in town expand is not going to be toxic. 3. This frees up $300M plus to fund Convention Center and or Charger Stadium downtown It may make too much sense, we shall see what transpires. |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 24, 2014 8:13:04 GMT -8
We can only hope that a plan like this will come through.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 8:16:02 GMT -8
Off topic.
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Post by Den60 on Aug 24, 2014 8:30:19 GMT -8
So it begins. www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/aug/24/peace-qualcomm-stadium-sdsu-convention-downtown/$300M to buy the Q site. State may be able to buy the site, develop it for a West Campus, renovate the stadium, and have control. 1. State can use eminent domain and there would not need to be a vote on the sale. 2. Politically allowing one of the best assets in town expand is not going to be toxic. 3. This frees up $300M plus to fund Convention Center and or Charger Stadium downtown It may make too much sense, we shall see what transpires. Use eminent domain? Wow, how quickly people give away their rights to the government. The land is owned by the city, not the state of California. From what I read nothing is mentioned about renovating the stadium in this plan, just $300M to buy the property to expand the campus. How much additional money would be required to renovate a stadium that was not built for football? Another $100M or so would be needed just to refurbish it and then it would still be a stadium that is a poor venue for football. And with that stadium built in the center of the lot how much space is available for campus housing, classrooms, research center and that big park they are talking about? |
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Post by therealeman on Aug 24, 2014 8:42:39 GMT -8
So it begins. www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/aug/24/peace-qualcomm-stadium-sdsu-convention-downtown/$300M to buy the Q site. State may be able to buy the site, develop it for a West Campus, renovate the stadium, and have control. 1. State can use eminent domain and there would not need to be a vote on the sale. 2. Politically allowing one of the best assets in town expand is not going to be toxic. 3. This frees up $300M plus to fund Convention Center and or Charger Stadium downtown It may make too much sense, we shall see what transpires. Use eminent domain? Wow, how quickly people give away their rights to the government. The land is owned by the city, not the state of California. From what I read nothing is mentioned about renovating the stadium in this plan, just $300M to buy the property to expand the campus. How much additional money would be required to renovate a stadium that was not built for football? Another $100M or so would be needed just to refurbish it and then it would still be a stadium that is a poor venue for football. And with that stadium built in the center of the lot how much space is available for campus housing, classrooms, research center and that big park they are talking about? Hey everyone, look, it's negative Nancy over here. I'm sure you are also one of the individuals who is worried about the basketball performance center "fitting" next to the alumni center. |
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Post by SD Johnny on Aug 24, 2014 8:46:17 GMT -8
This is a great idea on its own but this could be done to fund the majority of the convention center expansion. Bringing the Chargers stadium into this would make it a lot more difficult as you add a billion dollars to the scope.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 24, 2014 9:05:57 GMT -8
So it begins. www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/aug/24/peace-qualcomm-stadium-sdsu-convention-downtown/$300M to buy the Q site. State may be able to buy the site, develop it for a West Campus, renovate the stadium, and have control. 1. State can use eminent domain and there would not need to be a vote on the sale. 2. Politically allowing one of the best assets in town expand is not going to be toxic. 3. This frees up $300M plus to fund Convention Center and or Charger Stadium downtown It may make too much sense, we shall see what transpires. Use eminent domain? Wow, how quickly people give away their rights to the government. The land is owned by the city, not the state of California. From what I read nothing is mentioned about renovating the stadium in this plan, just $300M to buy the property to expand the campus. How much additional money would be required to renovate a stadium that was not built for football? Another $100M or so would be needed just to refurbish it and then it would still be a stadium that is a poor venue for football. And with that stadium built in the center of the lot how much space is available for campus housing, classrooms, research center and that big park they are talking about? 1. Eminent Domain - There have been several rulings on the use of eminent domain, so I am not going to go too much into why it exists in the western world. However, the most controversial uses of Eminent Domain is when government uses it on private property. This is the State using it on a municipality. Not sure where individual rights come into play in this transaction. 2. State would need to renovate the stadium. Got it, why is that a problem? So your belief is that no matter the renovation, it would still be a poor venue. Let's assume that is true (not sure where you got your Crystal Ball, but OK), it would be State's poor venue. Yes State is going to need to put money into the structure, what's the issue? 3. The site is 166 Acres and the Stadium occupies a fraction of that footprint, see map below.  |
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Post by laaztec on Aug 24, 2014 9:06:45 GMT -8
Fine with me. Just get SDSU football out of the Q. It's a morgue.
This project would take 20 years to complete (with all the lawsuits) but it's better than the current situation.
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Post by Aztec Since 88 on Aug 24, 2014 9:11:36 GMT -8
We can only hope that a plan like this will come through. I agree and it is nice to see the community openly talking about it in public, and it not be just message board fodder. |
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Post by rolf tomato on Aug 24, 2014 9:38:09 GMT -8
I like the idea, but I would definitely like to see the 'Q' come down and a more suitable, designed for football, stadium go up in it's place.
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Post by theoracle on Aug 24, 2014 9:46:30 GMT -8
For those that are familiar with Eminent Domain law, this option is not that controversial if a "friendly" condemnation action occurs. This type of proposal is done often by municipalities and utilities to get around the red tape of conventional transactions. It's not that big of an issue if both parties are willing to work together. So it begins. www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/aug/24/peace-qualcomm-stadium-sdsu-convention-downtown/$300M to buy the Q site. State may be able to buy the site, develop it for a West Campus, renovate the stadium, and have control. 1. State can use eminent domain and there would not need to be a vote on the sale. 2. Politically allowing one of the best assets in town expand is not going to be toxic. 3. This frees up $300M plus to fund Convention Center and or Charger Stadium downtown It may make too much sense, we shall see what transpires. Use eminent domain? Wow, how quickly people give away their rights to the government. The land is owned by the city, not the state of California. From what I read nothing is mentioned about renovating the stadium in this plan, just $300M to buy the property to expand the campus. How much additional money would be required to renovate a stadium that was not built for football? Another $100M or so would be needed just to refurbish it and then it would still be a stadium that is a poor venue for football. And with that stadium built in the center of the lot how much space is available for campus housing, classrooms, research center and that big park they are talking about? |
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Post by hoobs on Aug 24, 2014 10:03:09 GMT -8
Thank god. Finally I think what was the only logical, inevitable outcome for the Q site will start getting sufficient traction. This is AWESOME for SDSU.
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Post by hoobs on Aug 24, 2014 10:03:50 GMT -8
I like the idea, but I would definitely like to see the 'Q' come down and a more suitable, designed for football, stadium go up in it's place. That can always be phase 2. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 10:10:53 GMT -8
Use eminent domain? Wow, how quickly people give away their rights to the government. The land is owned by the city, not the state of California. From what I read nothing is mentioned about renovating the stadium in this plan, just $300M to buy the property to expand the campus. How much additional money would be required to renovate a stadium that was not built for football? Another $100M or so would be needed just to refurbish it and then it would still be a stadium that is a poor venue for football. And with that stadium built in the center of the lot how much space is available for campus housing, classrooms, research center and that big park they are talking about? Jeebus. Who appointed you Debby Downer? |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 24, 2014 10:17:03 GMT -8
Quick, someone add a basketball use, like a team spa on the site. The hoops-only fans will then buy in!  Sent from my SM-G900V using proboards |
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Post by junior on Aug 24, 2014 10:17:20 GMT -8
I think the biggest problem with any plan will be the environmental costs involved in any kind of transfer. That tank farm in the upper right corner is the problem. The leakage from that place over decades has turned the ground under the stadium into a nice big Superfund project.
The Stadium and parking lot is one of the last big pieces of land in Mission Valley, however, so those thinking 25-50 years ahead are doing all of us a favor.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Aug 24, 2014 10:19:48 GMT -8
I think the site has been largely already remediated.
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Post by badfish on Aug 24, 2014 10:20:23 GMT -8
How would an SDSU West campus work? I'm just happy it's being discussed.
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 24, 2014 10:20:29 GMT -8
This has been the best idea all along.
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Post by HighNTight on Aug 24, 2014 10:31:27 GMT -8
I read that article ... it was conspicuous that an Aztecs football stadium was absent in the "plan" for the Q site ...
"He said SDSU, landlocked at its 300-acre campus on Montezuma Mesa, could turn the Qualcomm site into a new “front door” with student and faculty housing, classrooms and research labs, plus a recreational center and regional park focused on the San Diego River.
It all would be designed as a car-free, 21st century transit-oriented development linked to the existing San Diego Trolley, three stops away from SDSU and in a few years, several more stops on a new trolley line to UC San Diego. SDSU, UCSD and USD all could conceivably participate in creating a multi-university campus where students could interact."
My guess is that his plan has the Aztecs renting the downtown stadium from the Chargers
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