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Post by aztecwin on Jan 22, 2014 13:47:40 GMT -8
Some how the idea that entry level low wage jobs are not meant to be careers escapes lefties. Why do righties think exploiting employees is a good idea? Offering entry level low skill jobs is hardly exploitation. |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 22, 2014 14:02:08 GMT -8
Why do righties think exploiting employees is a good idea? Offering entry level low skill jobs is hardly exploitation. Anytime a full time employee can not live on the income earned it is exploitation. |
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Post by uwaztec on Jan 22, 2014 14:10:05 GMT -8
Workers seem to do fine at Costco, what is the difference there?? Costco is extremely successful.
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 22, 2014 14:16:41 GMT -8
Offering entry level low skill jobs is hardly exploitation. Anytime a full time employee can not live on the income earned it is exploitation. They don't have to work at these jobs. There is no exploitation. These are after school jobs or temp jobs while still looking. |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 22, 2014 14:20:26 GMT -8
Workers seem to do fine at Costco, what is the difference there?? Costco is extremely successful. Workers at Costco have fine jobs and they are also better skilled. I am sure that Wendy's workers will apply for those kind of positions as they develop skills and can show stability. It is all part of a competitive job market. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jan 22, 2014 15:00:29 GMT -8
Anytime a full time employee can not live on the income earned it is exploitation. They don't have to work at these jobs. There is no exploitation. These are after school jobs or temp jobs while still looking. Not anymore. It is much harder for a student to find an 'after school job' these days. Many of the traditional fast food jobs are now being filled by older workers who work no more than 30 hours a week at the job. This is so they won't get paid benefits. I have two teenage boys so I know how hard the job search is. |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 22, 2014 15:04:32 GMT -8
They don't have to work at these jobs. There is no exploitation. These are after school jobs or temp jobs while still looking. Not anymore. It is much harder for a student to find an 'after school job' these days. Many of the traditional fast food jobs are now being filled by older workers who work no more than 30 hours a week at the job. This is so they won't get paid benefits. I have two teenage boys so I know how hard the job search is. Well here is what Bill Gates has to say about that. Not what you think and certainly not what was expected when this MSNBC liberal posed the question. www.ijreview.com/2014/01/110131-answer-msnbc-host-looking-bill-gates-raising-minimum-wage/Don't know where Gates got his stats, but this is how someone with any depth would look at it. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jan 22, 2014 15:10:53 GMT -8
Ya. Let's ask the richest man in the world about the minimum wage. Business will ALWAYS replace people with automation when possible. It doesn't matter what they make.
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 22, 2014 19:36:01 GMT -8
Anytime a full time employee can not live on the income earned it is exploitation. They don't have to work at these jobs. There is no exploitation. These are after school jobs or temp jobs while still looking. Happy days is off TV now. Join 2014. These are no longer after jobs or temp jobs. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jan 24, 2014 16:10:05 GMT -8
What a fool I've been! Went to school, became a teacher, somehow hung on in the classroom til I reached retirement age. If only I had been smart enough to become a modern day Robber Baron! Now, that's what I should have done. I would have rounded up a bunch of rough, tough, thugs. Then I would have given them weapons and told them to go out and wander the country, holding up people and breaking into business and banks. Hell, I could have piled up millions of dollars in ill-gotten gains. Why, by now I would have owned luxury homes, my own jet plane, several . . . Oh, what's that you say?
You are telling me that the old time Robber Barons DID NOT send out bands of robbers? So, how did they make their fortunes? What? Oh, I see. They built factories and railroads and invented things like the electric light and better ways to manufacture steel? Gee, that sounds a lot more complicated than just sending out thugs to stick up people. But there's that name: Robber Baron. What about that? Hmm. I suppose there was some reason for the name. Perhaps it was ILLEGAL to build steel mills, build railroads, and invent neat new things.
How's that? You are telling me that none of those things was illegal? Okay, then, I just don't get it.
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 25, 2014 6:56:21 GMT -8
What a fool I've been! Went to school, became a teacher, somehow hung on in the classroom til I reached retirement age. If only I had been smart enough to become a modern day Robber Baron! Now, that's what I should have done. I would have rounded up a bunch of rough, tough, thugs. Then I would have given them weapons and told them to go out and wander the country, holding up people and breaking into business and banks. Hell, I could have piled up millions of dollars in ill-gotten gains. Why, by now I would have owned luxury homes, my own jet plane, several . . . Oh, what's that you say? You are telling me that the old time Robber Barons DID NOT send out bands of robbers? So, how did they make their fortunes? What? Oh, I see. They built factories and railroads and invented things like the electric light and better ways to manufacture steel? Gee, that sounds a lot more complicated than just sending out thugs to stick up people. But there's that name: Robber Baron. What about that? Hmm. I suppose there was some reason for the name. Perhaps it was ILLEGAL to build steel mills, build railroads, and invent neat new things. How's that? You are telling me that none of those things was illegal? Okay, then, I just don't get it. AzWm I find it even more amazing that these whining liberals seem to think that there is only a finite amount of wealth and that those who have built a business or have invested can only contribute to society if they have their fortune taken from them and redistributed. They want to sit around and eat the seed corn and kill and eat the goose who lays the eggs. |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 25, 2014 8:55:31 GMT -8
The "Captains of Industry" v. "Robber Barons" has been a debate for years. William, your description of a Robber Baron is ludicrous. I imagine you know better than that. Trolling your own board is beneath you, William.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jan 27, 2014 23:50:38 GMT -8
The "Captains of Industry" v. "Robber Barons" has been a debate for years. William, your description of a Robber Baron is ludicrous. I imagine you know better than that. Trolling your own board is beneath you, William. Well, hell, of course it's ludicrous;that's the point. That's satire, friend! I was trying, perhaps unsuccessfully, to take a jab at the view held, to one degree or another, by many on the Left who think that people get rich largely, if not mostly, through good luck instead of through intelligent personal decisions and incredibly hard work. You remember the "You didn't build that" refrain, right? I think that BHO was speaking in all seriousness when he made that remark. H e may be a really nice guy, great husband, and doting father, but as regards understanding what works and what does not work economically, he is at best a lightweight. And I mean a really light weight!AzWm |
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Post by azteccc on Jan 28, 2014 3:40:22 GMT -8
The "Captains of Industry" v. "Robber Barons" has been a debate for years. William, your description of a Robber Baron is ludicrous. I imagine you know better than that. Trolling your own board is beneath you, William. Well, hell, of course it's ludicrous;that's the point. That's satire, friend! I was trying, perhaps unsuccessfully, to take a jab at the view held, to one degree or another, by many on the Left who think that people get rich largely, if not mostly, through good luck instead of through intelligent personal decisions and incredibly hard work. You remember the "You didn't build that" refrain, right? I think that BHO was speaking in all seriousness when he made that remark. H e may be a really nice guy, great husband, and doting father, but as regards understanding what works and what does not work economically, he is at best a lightweight. And I mean a really light weight!AzWm Yep, the Waltons built the railroads and highway system for us - thank heavens! |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 28, 2014 7:39:16 GMT -8
The "Captains of Industry" v. "Robber Barons" has been a debate for years. William, your description of a Robber Baron is ludicrous. I imagine you know better than that. Trolling your own board is beneath you, William. Well, hell, of course it's ludicrous;that's the point. That's satire, friend! I was trying, perhaps unsuccessfully, to take a jab at the view held, to one degree or another, by many on the Left who think that people get rich largely, if not mostly, through good luck instead of through intelligent personal decisions and incredibly hard work. You remember the "You didn't build that" refrain, right? I think that BHO was speaking in all seriousness when he made that remark. H e may be a really nice guy, great husband, and doting father, but as regards understanding what works and what does not work economically, he is at best a lightweight. And I mean a really light weight!AzWm Perhaps unsucessfully? Is that sarcasm as well? You seem to want to make the point that all rich people make their money by their own hard work. Is that your point? |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 28, 2014 7:41:18 GMT -8
Well, hell, of course it's ludicrous;that's the point. That's satire, friend! I was trying, perhaps unsuccessfully, to take a jab at the view held, to one degree or another, by many on the Left who think that people get rich largely, if not mostly, through good luck instead of through intelligent personal decisions and incredibly hard work. You remember the "You didn't build that" refrain, right? I think that BHO was speaking in all seriousness when he made that remark. H e may be a really nice guy, great husband, and doting father, but as regards understanding what works and what does not work economically, he is at best a lightweight. And I mean a really light weight!AzWm Yep, the Walton's built the railroads and highway system for us - thank heavens! Of course the government gave the railroad barons alternating section of land along the right of way. No government intervention in the marketplace there. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Feb 2, 2014 23:18:10 GMT -8
Here's the basic question. See if you can answer it correctly.
Yes or No: Wealth is created mostly (that means not entirely, just to stress an important point) by risk-takers who have a dream and work very hard to make that dream (building a car company, inventing a new means of doing something useful, starting a restaurant, etc.) come true.
Remember, I said "mostly." Nobody is claiming that success is achieved without some help from others in the form of government roads, fire departments, courts, contract laws, etc.
AzWm
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Post by aztecwin on Feb 3, 2014 12:04:26 GMT -8
Yep, the Walton's built the railroads and highway system for us - thank heavens! Of course the government gave the railroad barons alternating section of land along the right of way. No government intervention in the marketplace there. Of course there were incentives that helped make the railroads and their risk takers very successful. Had government chosen to try to undertake that task itself, we would still be laying rail between Chicago and Minneapolis. |
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Post by aztec70 on Feb 3, 2014 12:07:22 GMT -8
Of course the government gave the railroad barons alternating section of land along the right of way. No government intervention in the marketplace there. Of course there were incentives that helped make the railroads and their risk takers very successful. Had government chosen to try to undertake that task itself, we would still be laying rail between Chicago and Minneapolis. Glad to see you acknowledge the government should intervene in the market place. You Commie. |
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Post by aztec70 on Feb 3, 2014 12:12:00 GMT -8
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