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Post by johneaztec on Dec 20, 2012 22:01:08 GMT -8
Shut the hell up the ref bull$#!+. We gave it away. Both happened.
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Post by trellzmybro on Dec 20, 2012 22:14:08 GMT -8
Well, we were all commenting in our section that the Aztecs seemed to get away with some late hits to the QB in the first quarter...I'd love to see the replay of the fumble in the endzone. Was it really a fumble? I think it was a fumble. Aztec fans were pissed about it but I think it was a fumble. He lost control of the ball, even though his arm was going forward.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Dec 20, 2012 22:16:10 GMT -8
Well, we were all commenting in our section that the Aztecs seemed to get away with some late hits to the QB in the first quarter...I'd love to see the replay of the fumble in the endzone. Was it really a fumble? I think it was a fumble. Aztec fans were pissed about it but I think it was a fumble. He lost control of the ball, even though his arm was going forward. That's poop! You are throwing the ball or you aren't he was tryin to throw the ball!
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Post by saucematix on Dec 20, 2012 22:18:59 GMT -8
"if the arm is going forward before the ball comes loose, it is a pass" The ball was going forward. PERIOD
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Post by junior on Dec 20, 2012 22:26:23 GMT -8
They showed every angle - in slo mo - on the replays in the stadium. It was clearly a forward pass. When they "confirmed" the field call, everyone in the stands just groaned - well except for a few of us that screamed "bull $#!+" at the tops of our lungs. (to no avail, I should add)
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Post by elconquistador on Dec 20, 2012 22:45:41 GMT -8
The pick 6 was a complete joke of a call. That block happends all the time.
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Post by zed on Dec 21, 2012 1:41:09 GMT -8
After the game, I saw the refs change into their white shirts, ties, and bicycle helmets and ride away into the night.
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Post by SuperAztec on Dec 21, 2012 7:42:19 GMT -8
I have not watched the game on TV yet, but, from the stands I really thought the hit on Lockett in the end-zone when we went down should have (or "could" have) drawn a flag.
It looked like a helmet to helmet hit on a defenseless receiver. I know it was a bang bang play but I have seen similar plays draw a flag.
Am I crazy or was that a "missed" call?
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Post by MarshallU on Dec 21, 2012 8:15:49 GMT -8
Int TD called back on highly questionable call that was well behind the play Obvious personal foul on blindside hit against Dingwell several seconds after the play was over With 15 seconds left byu gets the 3rd down conversion and only 6 seconds tick off when 9 seconds elapsed byu kicks field goal on a stopped clock and the final 6 seconds run off the clock when there should have been 4 seconds remaining We are getting -ss f-cked by these refs and I'm afraid it may come back to haunt us. The score should be 21-zip How about Lockett getting drilled in the head a full second after the ball sailed by him incomplete? No call of course. Yet, they take away a TD on a bad call that had no effect on the play. that wasn't a penalty. 20 was a punk, but that wasn't a penalty.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 21, 2012 9:11:24 GMT -8
The only missed calls were the illegal block on the pick six return and the late hit on Dingwell that went uncalled.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 21, 2012 9:30:27 GMT -8
That was a BS non-call late hit on Dingwell. The BYU defender took 3 steps after he released the pass. It looked like one offical was about to pull his flag but he changed his mind.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 9:39:12 GMT -8
Shut the hell up the ref bull$#!+. We gave it away.
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Post by AztecBill on Dec 21, 2012 10:51:56 GMT -8
If there was no call in the interception return and the play in the end zone was ruled a pass, we win. If those things happened, the same folks that are crying about how terrible the Aztecs are would be hailing them as conquering heroes. Nothing really would have changed about the Aztecs. It's called perspective.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 11:10:43 GMT -8
Int call was a game changer. BYU could not move the ball on the ground period and obviously they can't pass to well either. We go in at half time up 13-3 or 13-0 and BYU wouldve had to play totally different game in the second half. Also, the no call on the Dingwell hit was garbage, especially on the replay when you could easily see the ref watching and the BYU player clearly seeing the pass go, gives the late hit, then throws his hands up like it was an accident. If your the ref you though the hanky simply because you know the defender saw the ball leave his hand and layed the hit anyway. Still though Dingwell had a bad night chucking it, this was a big game for his 6th start ever.
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Post by PQ Aztec on Dec 21, 2012 11:23:12 GMT -8
We lost this game, can't blame refs
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Post by saucematix on Dec 21, 2012 11:37:42 GMT -8
does anyone not get it? we outplay them the entire game until this call. it drained out players. ANyone who saw the replay and still thinks it was a fumble is a complete idiot.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 21, 2012 11:45:30 GMT -8
On the contrary, those who don't understand the empty hand rule just don't get it. It was a fumble. At first I thought clearly going forward, but the side angle was the critical one. The refs got it right.
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Post by myownwords on Dec 21, 2012 11:54:01 GMT -8
Does it really matter? There are so many things that went wrong and bad decisions by coaches and players on our side, that this play had zero effect on outcome.
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Post by cpeedlimit on Dec 21, 2012 12:42:27 GMT -8
The play call was risky with out doubt, however, if the dinger was just a second earlier with his delivery and we hit a 95 yard TD pass we would all be praising the call. You win some you lose some... We just need to keep winning more than we lose. Go Aztecs!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 13:22:03 GMT -8
On the contrary, those who don't understand the empty hand rule just don't get it. It was a fumble. At first I thought clearly going forward, but the side angle was the critical one. The refs got it right. I've only ever heard the empty hand rule applied in the NFL? But it makes sense so I can see why it would apply at this level. Honestly it was close and you cant blame the whole game on that one call either way. That's your point and it's a good one. If we play better on offense then BYU isn't punting us to death and pinning us inside the 5 over and over again. That, for me, was bigger then most of the bad calls. I mean we had a decent run game until they started pinning us back and turning the playbook into a joke.
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