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Post by phantom on Oct 2, 2012 15:29:20 GMT -8
Here's my take based on that, as I understand it, we will not get any of the BE money until the end of NEXT year...
Why get rid of him in a few months and hire a new coach under our current financial situation when we can WAIT til the end of next year when we have access to the BEast money for the first time to get a top notch coach with top notch assistants with a much larger budget? Why marry ourselves to another "on the cheap" coaching staff when we can wait 1 more year to financially afford a top notch coach who can bring in top notch assistants, especially in comparison to our previous hires.
It'd be stupid for Sterk to fire Rocky now. Hell, he probably wouldn't even let Rocky quit for the same reason.
It's been well documented that every hire we've had has lost out on many of their top assistant choice due to our budget.
So unless we're able to get some sort of advance on that Big East money, which i doubt but someone correct me if we can, and regardless of record this year, I think Rocky stays through next year.
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Post by myownwords on Oct 2, 2012 15:33:24 GMT -8
Here's my take based on that, as I understand it, we will not get any of the BE money until the end of NEXT year... Why get rid of him in a few months and hire a new coach under our current financial situation when we can WAIT til the end of next year when we have access to the BEast money for the first time to get a top notch coach with top notch assistants with a much larger budget? Why marry ourselves to another "on the cheap" coaching staff when we can wait 1 more year to financially afford a top notch coach who can bring in top notch assistants, especially in comparison to our previous hires. It'd be stupid for Sterk to fire Rocky now. Hell, he probably wouldn't even let Rocky quit for the same reason. It's been well documented that every hire we've had has lost out on many of their top assistant choice due to our budget. So unless we're able to get some sort of advance on that Big East money, which i doubt but someone correct me if we can, and regardless of record this year, I think Rocky stays through next year. Seriously? Do you really want him to have any more deleterious affects on recruiting than has already taken place? The longer he stays, the more lasting the damage. |
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Post by monty on Oct 2, 2012 16:05:00 GMT -8
maybe he's lost every coach not directly connected with him and had to give guys their first chance coaching because everyone in coaching knows he's not long for the world and have no desire to stay on a ship that is going to be moth balled soon
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Post by insider on Oct 2, 2012 16:06:15 GMT -8
maybe he's lost every coach not directly connected with him and had to give guys their first chance coaching because everyone in coaching knows he's not long for the world and have no desire to stay on a ship that is going to be moth balled soon yep |
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Post by montyismyhomie on Oct 2, 2012 16:12:37 GMT -8
joy... the three stooges posted the first 3 responses.
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Post by jdgaucho on Oct 2, 2012 16:16:49 GMT -8
why won't Rocky be fired? Because the alternative is Bullwinkle J. Moose  |
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Post by tttrojan4life on Oct 2, 2012 16:25:37 GMT -8
They better have someone in mind before they give Rocky the axe.
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Post by insider on Oct 2, 2012 16:26:06 GMT -8
Clearly asking Rocky to beat San Jose State and Fresno State is too much, if the team beats UNLV and CSU he should get a extension.
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Post by myownwords on Oct 2, 2012 16:35:53 GMT -8
joy... the three stooges posted the first 3 responses. ...and here you are limping behind. |
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Post by Aztec Law on Oct 2, 2012 16:59:31 GMT -8
It is not personal... Rocky is a good guy that has been unsuccessful. He will finish out the year. If we make a bowl game and he wants to stay, Sterk will allow him to stay... albeit on a VERY short leash. It would be tough to fire a guy after 3 straight bowl games! If we continue down this path (and unfortunately, I think we will) Sterk will say "Thanks, Rocky... We need a new guy to lead us into the Big East... this new era in SDSU football." Rocky will totally get it, and it will be the right thing to do for all involved. If it hurts recruiting in the interim, that is the price we will pay.
It is pointless to start the "FIRE ROCKY THREADS" after every loss... there will be more losses. Thank God for basketball season!
What sucks is that every Saturday I continually get excited for the game... thinking, "Maybe this will be the week we turn it around." Being an Aztec fan is hard, but it is where my loyalty lies! Go Aztecs!
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Post by monty on Oct 2, 2012 17:18:36 GMT -8
why won't Rocky be fired? Because the alternative is Bullwinkle J. Moose Bullwinkle was a great running back  Maybe we should hire Natasha |
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Post by monty on Oct 2, 2012 17:20:26 GMT -8
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Post by AztecWilliam on Oct 2, 2012 21:02:18 GMT -8
I had to erase my first reply to this thread and start over. The first one was more than a little on the contemptuous side with respect to those who are calling for Rocky's firing less than half way through this season.
Rocky Long will be our head coach this season and also the next. The only way that might change would be if he decides to retire due to ill health or is just plain fed up with the rigors of Div I FB coaching. My guess is that neither will happen.
The reasons why Rocky won't be fired are so obvious that it should not be necessary to explain them again. Let's just say that our AD and the whole administration has zero no desire to go looking for a new HC at this time. I think it's unlikely that the 2012 Aztecs will not end up with a least 5 wins. Such a finish would be really disappointing and might well call for the firing of a coach in his third or fourth year of losing campaigns. Rocky, of course, is in only his second year, and his first was a winning one which ended in a bowl appearance.
Again I ask, should he be fired? I say NO, certainly not a this time. What will all you whiners say if we win five of our last seven and go to another bowl? Oh, yeah, I know what the answer will be. "That won't happen because Rocky is a lousy coach and we will be lucky to win even two more games this season." Really? Oh, I see. The ability to see the future must be a trait possessed by many AztecMesa posters. If that's the case, what the hell are you doing wasting your time on this site? You should high tail it over to Vegas and make a bundle in the casinos.
The fact is that we do not know what will happen in the final seven games of the 2012 season. When those games have been played we can make some semi-intelligent remarks regarding whether Rocky Long should be retained as head coach. My position should not be understood to be unconditional support for RL. Whether he will be successful in the long run here is an open question. What is not an open question is whether the university will keep Rocky on board for 2013. Of course it will, even if this ends up being a losing season.
Do you think that after giving Chuck Long a third year after two losing seasons that they will take on the challenges and costs of looking for a new head coach when the current one has already posted one winning campaign? The AD, etc., may be keeping their fingers crossed about the rest of the 2012 season, but I can assure you that they have NO stomach for changing coaches.
If this season continues to disappoint and 2013 is no better, then all bets will be off. For now, however, we are wasting our time calling for Rocky's firing.
AzWm
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Oct 2, 2012 21:27:47 GMT -8
He won't be fired or quit because he has the best winning percentage of any head coach in the last 32 years of the program! Because Jim Sterk understands it takes time to build a program that has such a horrible previous 32 years. Because the team always plays hard. Because it is ludicrous to fire a 10-8 head football coach at San Diego "stinkin" State! And because there is no assurances the next guy would be any better. Recruiting has been just fine the last couple years. Just wait until that true freshman crop of O-Lineman mature. It was Hoke's 2 1/2 classes that haven't shown anything yet.
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Post by sdsu4lifealmost on Oct 3, 2012 0:37:36 GMT -8
Rocky won't get fired because Rocky is a good great coach, but hes going through a bad transition putter. But let me tell the none believers that he will be ready when Nevada comes around. You want guarantees? Well I can't, because I don't have a Flux Capacitor, but when I find one I'll take pictures. Till then lets wait this out before we bane our very own Coach. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 7:27:35 GMT -8
They better have someone in mind before they give Rocky the axe. Are you serious? Jeff Schemmel had someone in mind when he fired Tom Craft and it resulted in the worst head coaching hire in SDSU history. Even after UpChuck's three abysmal seasons, quality candidates applied for the job. Particularly now that the team is considerably better and SDSU is going to get out of the Molehill Conference, we should have twice as many quality guys interested in the job assuming they're willing to pay more than $1M per year. So unless Sterk is an idiot, we won't be replacing Rocky with Bullwinkle. |
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Post by myownwords on Oct 3, 2012 7:41:10 GMT -8
They better have someone in mind before they give Rocky the axe. Are you serious? Jeff Schemmel had someone in mind when he fired Tom Craft and it resulted in the worst head coaching hire in SDSU history. Even after UpChuck's three abysmal seasons, quality candidates applied for the job. Particularly now that the team is considerably better and SDSU is going to get out of the Molehill Conference, we should have twice as many quality guys interested in the job assuming they're willing to pay more than $1M per year. So unless Sterk is an idiot, we won't be replacing Rocky with Bullwinkle. ...AND I am confident that Sterk will NOT be allowed to make the call anyway. It will be by the same committee which picked Hoke. I suspect that they've already had informal meetings on what to do with Rocky. |
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Post by montysden on Oct 3, 2012 10:31:12 GMT -8
...AND I am confident that Sterk will NOT be allowed to make the call anyway. It will be by the same committee which picked Hoke. I suspect that they've already had informal meetings on what to do with Rocky. Cool fan-fiction bro. |
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Post by MarshallU on Oct 3, 2012 10:52:19 GMT -8
Rocky won't get fired because Rocky is a good great coach, but hes going through a bad transition putter. But let me tell the none believers that he will be ready when Nevada comes around. You want guarantees? Well I can't, because I don't have a Flux Capacitor, but when I find one I'll take pictures. Till then lets wait this out before we bane our very own Coach. one thing comes to mind when reading this stellar post... huh? |
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Post by MarshallU on Oct 3, 2012 10:53:35 GMT -8
actually two things...
what's a bad transition putter?
like when you've been putting with a blade putter your entire life, but haven't rolled it very well lately so you feel like you need to make a change? so you get on the belly putter bandwagon, knowing full well that won't be a long term solution. you mean like that kind of a bad transition putter? because if that's your point, i TOTALLY get what you are saying.
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