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Post by jmell on Sept 5, 2012 18:43:45 GMT -8
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Sept 5, 2012 18:54:36 GMT -8
Cool! I like their Aztec, "A" symbols. Now, this weekend do the refs let them carry guns during the game, again, like last year?
I joined the armee because I didn't have the grades to get into college. Some of those dudes look like their principal in high school put jars on their heads.
HAM Tax
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Post by fanhood on Sept 5, 2012 19:36:35 GMT -8
JOCAZTEC,
As former active duty Officer in the US Army, current National Guardsman, and business professional, I feel compelled to respond to you. What that Cadet was explaining was the fact that they have much more on their plate than typical D1 football players do. I am sorry to say, but that is a fact my friend.
Secondly, the average Junior Military Officer (Captain and below, generally between the ages of 22 and 30) is given more responsibility and expected to make crucial decisions more frequently than their peers in the civilian world. I have worked in both, and can assure you of that fact.
So the next time you make some silly sophomoric joke inferring somehow that serving in the Army equatesto some sort of lack of education, think about the fact that as a 24 year old 1LT, many of these young men will be the 2IC (Second In Charge) of an organization with 150 to 180 people in it.
Thanks.
FH.
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 5, 2012 19:47:44 GMT -8
Why can't people just leave this as a football game between two schools? That's all it is.
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Post by junior on Sept 5, 2012 20:16:23 GMT -8
JOCAZTEC, As former active duty Officer in the US Army, current National Guardsman, and business professional, I feel compelled to respond to you. What that Cadet was explaining was the fact that they have much more on their plate than typical D1 football players do.And that's just the beginning. Drill. Classes. More Drill. Chores. and THEN football. It's amazing that these Cadets have anything left for football after a typical day. And yet they give it 100%. Yes, they do have a few more things on their plates. And most have grabbed their second and third plates already. And then, it's four more years. No NFL paydays. Sorry, but these guys are already something special before they ever become Army Football players.
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Post by MarshallU on Sept 5, 2012 20:23:41 GMT -8
if you are looking for something intelligent from JOC, you're barking up the wrong tree
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Post by ellbee on Sept 5, 2012 20:29:28 GMT -8
JOCAZTEC, As former active duty Officer in the US Army, current National Guardsman, and business professional, I feel compelled to respond to you. What that Cadet was explaining was the fact that they have much more on their plate than typical D1 football players do.And that's just the beginning. Drill. Classes. More Drill. Chores. and THEN football. It's amazing that these Cadets have anything left for football after a typical day. And yet they give it 100%. Yes, they do have a few more things on their plates. And most have grabbed their second and third plates already. And then, it's four more years. No NFL paydays. Sorry, but these guys are already something special before they ever become Army Football players. Classes? Yes. Drill and chores - not so much. Corps Squad getovers...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2012 20:40:53 GMT -8
Says a a lot about our culture can you imagine that coming from Dwight Eisenhower,MacArthur or Robert E Lee.The service academy's ain't what they used to be.
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Post by darksidereturns on Sept 5, 2012 20:42:33 GMT -8
As Rocky said about the football players at the academies, "they are really there for a greater purpose than they are to be pro football players. I really admire them...They are special kids, absolutely special kids." and I totally agree.
That said I don't think Coach Hall had the boys playing xbox all summer...
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 5, 2012 20:43:52 GMT -8
Curious, are cadets put into the battle field on their summer breaks?
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Post by ellbee on Sept 5, 2012 20:48:46 GMT -8
Curious, are cadets put into the battle field on their summer breaks? Some of the upper class cadets are assigned to active duty Army units and train with them, but I don't believe that any cadets are deployed into war zones. I do know of a cadet who was awarded the Soldier's Medal for lifesaving actions during training when an enlisted solder dropped a live grenade in the pit. Instead of bailing out and running from the grenade, the cadet grabbed the grenade and threw it downrange - saving himself and at least three other enlisted men. So while they don't go into combat, they are in live fire situations.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Sept 5, 2012 21:06:04 GMT -8
if you are looking for something intelligent from JOC, you're barking up the wrong tree Thank you, SD Aztecs. Truer words will never be posted on this board.
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Post by bschmurda on Sept 5, 2012 21:16:39 GMT -8
if you are looking for something intelligent from JOC, you're barking up the wrong tree Thank you, SD Aztecs. Truer words will never be posted on this board. That guy is a nut, i never understand what he is talking about
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Post by aztecsman16 on Sept 5, 2012 21:45:08 GMT -8
Thank you, SD Aztecs. Truer words will never be posted on this board. That guy is a nut, i never understand what he is talking about I thought I was the only one that head hurt after reading JOCs posts.
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Post by aztec70 on Sept 5, 2012 22:22:50 GMT -8
I wonder if he thinks his posts are funny?
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Post by fanhood on Sept 6, 2012 3:40:41 GMT -8
Curious, are cadets put into the battle field on their summer breaks? No, they are not. They go to training schools like Airborne, Air Assault, Mountain Warfare, etc. with their active duty counterparts. They also complete a program called CTLT (Cadet Troop Leadership Training) where they shadow an active duty Platoon Leader or Executive Officer for a month, but this is only done in a training environment, and not in combat.
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Post by hbaztec on Sept 6, 2012 5:58:07 GMT -8
That guy is a nut, i never understand what he is talking about I thought I was the only one that head hurt after reading JOCs posts. No, you are not alone.
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Post by hbaztec on Sept 6, 2012 6:01:32 GMT -8
I believe that our team stands behind the service academies after the game when they salute their fans and band. That is what the Aztecs think of them. Could not make me prouder.
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Post by ervaztec on Sept 6, 2012 6:31:47 GMT -8
After My Aztecs, Army is one of my favorite teams because of the cadets.
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Post by McQuervo on Sept 6, 2012 7:33:53 GMT -8
Curious, are cadets put into the battle field on their summer breaks? No, they are not. They go to training schools like Airborne, Air Assault, Mountain Warfare, etc. with their active duty counterparts. They also complete a program called CTLT (Cadet Troop Leadership Training) where they shadow an active duty Platoon Leader or Executive Officer for a month, but this is only done in a training environment, and not in combat. Well said. Football for Cadets is entertainment, stress reduction (yes) and camaraderie. Completely different mindset. Completely different focus than our guys. All the Way!
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