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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 9:09:19 GMT -8
The amount of enthusiasm for the start of the 2012 season makes it seem almost like 2008 all over again. I'm excited, but then I always am. I suspect the ennui (that means boredom, somebody said) is the result of the these factors.
1. An unexciting home schedule.
2. A head coach who has made numerous statements designed to lower expectations.
3. The absence of superstar players on the roster.
4. Finishing 2011 with a loss to a Sun Belt Conference team.
5. One more year in a conference which for football is dying.
The only thing that's lessened my enthusiasm a bit is item #4. Your thoughts?
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Post by k5james on Aug 29, 2012 9:13:11 GMT -8
I don't think there's a lack of enthusiasm. I just think there are so many unknowns going into this season, it's hard to get worked up unless you follow the program closely.
The casual fan doesn't know that this is probably the deepest team we've had in some time. They just know we lost 13 and Lindley to the NFL so we must be in for a long year.
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Aug 29, 2012 9:19:12 GMT -8
I would probably elevate Escobar & McFadden to the "Aztec" superstar level. Also, you never know about some of the young skill guys...Ruffin, Price, or someone else could emerge?
However, overall I would agree with your assessment. I'm a diehard so will be into every game; however, my enthusiasm has been damped a bit because of the realities of the youth and inexperience in the trenches. I think we will be fortunate to go 8-4 or even 7-5. To me that would be a good year with our talent level, but I know that will have the fringes unfairly calling for Rocky's head.
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Post by fightnaztec on Aug 29, 2012 9:23:03 GMT -8
Muema will be a beast i predict.
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Post by monty on Aug 29, 2012 9:30:05 GMT -8
I'm nervous we're going to just fall back to 4 and 5 win seasons; I also see a schedule that if we pull of a miracle (for SDSU, for every other team in the GD nation this is a toss up) we are staring 9-0 in the face. I worry too much, so I also wonder if 6-6 or 7-5 is a pyrrhic victory.
You can't keep the team sequestered for 8 months, do nothing but say how god awful we are and then expect everyone to be excited. Sterk himself during an interview a month ago said he told E.S. Long to go sell the team more (and since he won't, then the Dept and Sterk need to)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 9:38:42 GMT -8
I think we'll beat Army as comfortably as we'll lose to Washington. Hopefully our players won't then think since SJSU is about at the same level as Army that they can just go through the motions against the Spartans and still win.
I agree with krishnan that Escobar and McFadden are potential superstars. However, the casual fan doesn't know that. And as James said, the casual fan doesn't know that there no longer is a massive dropoff in quality between many starters and their backup like there used to be so that injuries won't be as devastating as they once were.
Since nobody's mentioned it, I guess I'm the only one who was extremely disappointed by that bowl game loss.
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Post by Doug Drake on Aug 29, 2012 9:40:24 GMT -8
After the 2010 Poinsettia Bowl season and another seven or eight win season and a lower tier bowl does not seem that exciting. We would have killed for that three years ago. Our expectations have been met so it will take something like a Top 25 ranking and ten win season to ignite the fans.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Aug 29, 2012 9:40:40 GMT -8
Given Lindley's graduation, I'd say we could be in much worse shape than we are with Katz running the team.
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Post by justafan on Aug 29, 2012 9:43:14 GMT -8
It's F'in Axtec Football! $#!+, that's all I need to get "enthusiatic".
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Post by k5james on Aug 29, 2012 9:44:02 GMT -8
I think we'll beat Army as comfortably as we'll lose to Washington. Hopefully our players won't then think since SJSU is about at the same level as Army that they can just go through the motions against the Spartans and still win. I agree with krishnan that Escobar and McFadden are potential superstars. However, the casual fan doesn't know that. And as James said, the casual fan doesn't know that there no longer is a massive dropoff in quality between many starters and their backup like there used to be so that injuries won't be as devastating as they once were. Since nobody's mentioned it, I guess I'm the only one who was extremely disappointed by that bowl game loss. No, i've just turned the page. To be honest with you the Wyoming loss pisses me off more than the ULL loss anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 9:48:20 GMT -8
Since nobody's mentioned it, I guess I'm the only one who was extremely disappointed by that bowl game loss. No, i've just turned the page. To be honest with you the Wyoming loss pisses me off more than the ULL loss anyway. The Wyoming loss was actually less excusable. ULL might have been a SBC school but they were a much better team. The experts are rarely wrong and they had us -4 against ULL but a whopping -18 against Wyoming. Minus effing 18 points at home and we lost to Wyoming. Damn you, James, you've gotten me pissed all over again.  |
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Post by dreadhawk909 on Aug 29, 2012 9:48:22 GMT -8
Since nobody's mentioned it, I guess I'm the only one who was extremely disappointed by that bowl game loss. It's an interesting point. I remember vividly, after that ULL kick went through the uprights, I turned to my buddy and said "Well, we just lost the R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl. So what?". Had we lost to a "name" school from a big conference I think it woulda stung more. It just didn't feel like there was a lot on the line that game. We lost in the most brutal, heartbreaking way possible, yet that game still isn't in my Top 5 of Most Painful Aztec losses. Probably near the bottom of the Top 10, really. |
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Post by dreadhawk909 on Aug 29, 2012 9:49:32 GMT -8
I think we'll beat Army as comfortably as we'll lose to Washington. Hopefully our players won't then think since SJSU is about at the same level as Army that they can just go through the motions against the Spartans and still win. I agree with krishnan that Escobar and McFadden are potential superstars. However, the casual fan doesn't know that. And as James said, the casual fan doesn't know that there no longer is a massive dropoff in quality between many starters and their backup like there used to be so that injuries won't be as devastating as they once were. Since nobody's mentioned it, I guess I'm the only one who was extremely disappointed by that bowl game loss. No, i've just turned the page. To be honest with you the Wyoming loss pisses me off more than the ULL loss anyway. That Wyoming loss was f*ing brutal. Agree that it was way more frustrating than ULL. |
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Post by spgonzo on Aug 29, 2012 9:50:55 GMT -8
Boring ass coach, closed practices, s#!++y marketing, 13 is gone, s#!++y home scheduled, s#!++y TV coverage and s#!++y local reporting have all contributed to my lack of excitement.
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Post by aztec619 on Aug 29, 2012 9:55:09 GMT -8
I think we'll beat Army as comfortably as we'll lose to Washington. Hopefully our players won't then think since SJSU is about at the same level as Army that they can just go through the motions against the Spartans and still win. I agree with krishnan that Escobar and McFadden are potential superstars. However, the casual fan doesn't know that. And as James said, the casual fan doesn't know that there no longer is a massive dropoff in quality between many starters and their backup like there used to be so that injuries won't be as devastating as they once were. Since nobody's mentioned it, I guess I'm the only one who was extremely disappointed by that bowl game loss. No, i've just turned the page. To be honest with you the Wyoming loss pisses me off more than the ULL loss anyway. This is the loss that gets me really going. The bowl game of course but this one still gets me. |
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Post by aztec619 on Aug 29, 2012 9:56:48 GMT -8
Since nobody's mentioned it, I guess I'm the only one who was extremely disappointed by that bowl game loss. It's an interesting point. I remember vividly, after that ULL kick went through the uprights, I turned to my buddy and said "Well, we just lost the R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl. So what?". Had we lost to a "name" school from a big conference I think it woulda stung more. It just didn't feel like there was a lot on the line that game. We lost in the most brutal, heartbreaking way possible, yet that game still isn't in my Top 5 of Most Painful Aztec losses. Probably near the bottom of the Top 10, really. Me either. The Missouri loss from 2 years gets me the most recently. |
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Post by GothamCityRogue on Aug 29, 2012 9:57:12 GMT -8
I think we'll beat Army as comfortably as we'll lose to Washington. Hopefully our players won't then think since SJSU is about at the same level as Army that they can just go through the motions against the Spartans and still win. I agree with krishnan that Escobar and McFadden are potential superstars. However, the casual fan doesn't know that. And as James said, the casual fan doesn't know that there no longer is a massive dropoff in quality between many starters and their backup like there used to be so that injuries won't be as devastating as they once were. Since nobody's mentioned it, I guess I'm the only one who was extremely disappointed by that bowl game loss. No, i've just turned the page. To be honest with you the Wyoming loss pisses me off more than the ULL loss anyway. I still think about the loss to Wyo. More than the loss to ULL. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 10:12:26 GMT -8
Since nobody's mentioned it, I guess I'm the only one who was extremely disappointed by that bowl game loss. Besides the fact that last year is over and we are on to this year the bowl game loss doesn't really bother me because watching that game I didn't think the Aztec's played all that poorly (or shall I say any worse than they had played all year). I just felt the other team played their butts off. They made several plays that 9 times out of 10 they normally wouldn't have... I can specifically remember thinking their receivers were amazingly talented. And, of course, there was no doubt in my mind that that kicker would make that 50 yarder before he kicked it simply because he was perfectly poised to be the hero plus he was kicking it against the Aztecs... all in all, that loss is far easier for me to accept than all those giveaways to Wyoming.... what is it? 3 years in a row?? Those are AWFUL!!! |
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Post by War-Ztec on Aug 29, 2012 10:20:21 GMT -8
You diehards just brought up a couple painfull moments that I've been trying to erase from my memory for the better part of 8 months now. To the point of electric shock treatment, the Wyoming and ULL losses have haunted my nightmares to no end. I won't go much deeper into those as I am finally coming through the tunnel and seeing the light at the end, that was then this is now. However the lingering desire to exact a price on the next opponents hide is still entact and serving to fuel a desire and a wish that if I could go back in time and somehow manipulate my DNA, I would bless myself with the warrior mentallity of a Ronnie Lott, the aggressiveness and instinct of a Jr. Seau, The physique of a Steven Jackson and speed of Ray Lewis in his younger days. Come forward in time to now and play on this Aztec defense for which they would have to invent a new moniker. Not Aztec not Warrior but Headhunter. Judge, Jury and Executioner on that football field encased in crimson and black.....................(**poof**)...dammit, I hate waking up from a nice dream *sigh*
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Post by showdora on Aug 29, 2012 10:20:22 GMT -8
The Wyoming loss and bowl loss last season are factors. The players expect to beat everybody they play otoh.
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