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Post by jeffreylw on Jul 30, 2012 12:29:30 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 12:40:28 GMT -8
NO. And, no.
There is no indisputable evidence that "pitch counting" Strasburg will avoid an injury down the road.
The guy leads the majors in K's. Pennant races don't happen every year. The future looks bright for the Nats, but regardless....you go for it, and you keep your ace in there, even if you want to limit him to 6 innings/ 100-105 pitch count starts.
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Post by k5james on Jul 30, 2012 13:33:32 GMT -8
NO. And, no. There is no indisputable evidence that "pitch counting" Strasburg will avoid an injury down the road. The guy leads the majors in K's. Pennant races don't happen every year. The future looks bright for the Nats, but regardless....you go for it, and you keep your ace in there, even if you want to limit him to 6 innings/ 100-105 pitch count starts. This. |
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Post by dreadhawk909 on Jul 30, 2012 13:44:46 GMT -8
If the Nats were out of it, I think it's a perfectly legitimate conversation to have.
But with a great shot at the playoffs? Insane to even consider it.
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Post by xohsxc on Jul 30, 2012 13:47:51 GMT -8
I completely agree with Josh Jones. Also, use him now because he will probably never resign with the Nationals.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 14:28:24 GMT -8
You owe it to your fans to go for the pennant.
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Post by RockNFish on Jul 30, 2012 14:55:13 GMT -8
NO. And, no. There is no indisputable evidence that "pitch counting" Strasburg will avoid an injury down the road. The guy leads the majors in K's. Pennant races don't happen every year. The future looks bright for the Nats, but regardless....you go for it, and you keep your ace in there, even if you want to limit him to 6 innings/ 100-105 pitch count starts.  |
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 30, 2012 16:56:02 GMT -8
It's impossible to tell what the Nats are going to day... since they appear to be completely clueless. As an example:
A couple starts ago vs the Braves, Stras pitches 5 scoreless innings (it was a struggle, the Braves left A LOT of runners on base) and then it starts to rain HEAVY. The Nats were up 9-0 at the time. With all the talk of limiting his innings... why wasn't he yanked after 5 shutout innings when HEAVY rain was falling? He already qualified for the W. There was nothing to gain by sending him out in the sixth. So what happens, he can't grip the ball in the rain and gets LIT UP for 4 runs.
It was absolutely stupid to send him back out in the sixth. The Braves ultimately came back and won the game.
So who knows what the Nats will do going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 17:08:28 GMT -8
NO. And, no. There is no indisputable evidence that "pitch counting" Strasburg will avoid an injury down the road. The guy leads the majors in K's. Pennant races don't happen every year. The future looks bright for the Nats, but regardless....you go for it, and you keep your ace in there, even if you want to limit him to 6 innings/ 100-105 pitch count starts. Not saying I advocate doing so. My point was simply, if you're so concerned about pitch counts and they want to monitor him per start, I could see that. Doesn't mean there is evidence it will prevent injury. But if they think it will keep him fresher for October, great. Shutting him down in August would be stupid. He is their staff ace and a bona fide stud. Ride your horse. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 17:09:26 GMT -8
It's impossible to tell what the Nats are going to day... since they appear to be completely clueless. As an example: A couple starts ago vs the Braves, Stras pitches 5 scoreless innings (it was a struggle, the Braves left A LOT of runners on base) and then it starts to rain HEAVY. The Nats were up 9-0 at the time. With all the talk of limiting his innings... why wasn't he yanked after 5 shutout innings when HEAVY rain was falling? He already qualified for the W. There was nothing to gain by sending him out in the sixth. So what happens, he can't grip the ball in the rain and gets LIT UP for 4 runs. It was absolutely stupid to send him back out in the sixth. The Braves ultimately came back and won the game. So who knows what the Nats will do going forward. Seems very stupid. Makes me wonder, was the bullpen pretty taxed going into that game? |
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Post by goodygood on Jul 30, 2012 17:30:19 GMT -8
No on the shut down.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jul 30, 2012 18:13:13 GMT -8
It's impossible to tell what the Nats are going to day... since they appear to be completely clueless. As an example: A couple starts ago vs the Braves, Stras pitches 5 scoreless innings (it was a struggle, the Braves left A LOT of runners on base) and then it starts to rain HEAVY. The Nats were up 9-0 at the time. With all the talk of limiting his innings... why wasn't he yanked after 5 shutout innings when HEAVY rain was falling? He already qualified for the W. There was nothing to gain by sending him out in the sixth. So what happens, he can't grip the ball in the rain and gets LIT UP for 4 runs. It was absolutely stupid to send him back out in the sixth. The Braves ultimately came back and won the game. So who knows what the Nats will do going forward. Clueless enough to have the best record in the MLB today.  I think they are handling him well overall. |
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Post by uncledougy on Jul 30, 2012 18:42:46 GMT -8
I want to know what Stras himself thinks? Is his career in danger if he continues? Have him come out of the pen if its a marginal issue.
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Post by romanaztec on Jul 30, 2012 18:45:47 GMT -8
I want to know what Stras himself thinks? Is his career in danger if he continues? Have him come out of the pen if its a marginal issue. “They're Going To Have To Rip The Ball Out Of My Hands” -Stephen Strasburg |
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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 30, 2012 18:53:06 GMT -8
No. Keep an eye on the pitch count, but don't take the ball out of his hand in a pennant race.
A large part of being an ace is delivering when your team is fighting for a playoff spot.
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Post by monty on Jul 30, 2012 19:09:54 GMT -8
The babying of pitchers is likely what has lead to injuries.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 0:15:26 GMT -8
I say shut him down, but not completely. Have him sell beer or hot dogs in the stands. You could charge of premium for his section.
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Post by ragin'aztec on Jul 31, 2012 20:26:40 GMT -8
F-....
NO!!!!!!
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Post by 2001rosebowl on Jul 31, 2012 20:55:38 GMT -8
doesn't matter, Mariners are not losing again in the regular season or playoffs
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Post by insider on Aug 1, 2012 1:40:11 GMT -8
NO. And, no. There is no indisputable evidence that "pitch counting" Strasburg will avoid an injury down the road. The guy leads the majors in K's. Pennant races don't happen every year. The future looks bright for the Nats, but regardless....you go for it, and you keep your ace in there, even if you want to limit him to 6 innings/ 100-105 pitch count starts. Health is more important than this years wins. |
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