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Post by ernieaztec on Aug 5, 2012 2:53:02 GMT -8
i might watch just to see him hit...good prospects thou
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 6, 2012 8:17:10 GMT -8
i might watch just to see him hit...good prospects thou It will be interesting. Post All-star game.294 .330 .529 .859 Yonder Alonzo .284 .337 .469 .806 Anthony Rizzo Rizzo started hot but Alonzo has been better since the all-star break even though Alonzo has played a bunch of games at Petco Park and Rizzo gets to play at Wrigley Field.
Speaking of Yonder, He currently has 31 doubles and 6 home runs. According to Weighted OBA the value of 31 doubles is the same as 20 home runs and the value of 6 home runs is the same as 10 doubles. How everyone's opinon of Yonder would change if he had 10 doubles and 20 home runs?
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 7, 2012 7:36:57 GMT -8
I'll bet he doesn't hit a home run at Petco Park this coming week. PM me if you have a PayPal account. You want to bet money?
Last night he hit one of those fly balls that have been home runs for him but it was an out on the warning track. Give me a line drive hitter any day.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 7, 2012 9:43:49 GMT -8
You want to bet money?
Last night he hit one of those fly balls that have been home runs for him but it was an out on the warning track. Give me a line drive hitter any day. Line drives can be caught. Balls hit over the fence cannot be caught. Of course I want to bet money. You have an advantage now, but I'll still bet he'll go yard in this series. Overall Line Drives become hits at a far higher rate than Fly Balls. That difference increases at Petco Park because Line Drive rates of base hits remains about the same but the Fly Ball rate of being a base hit drops dramatically. Side Note: balls hit over the fence can be caught. I bet he won't but I don't really want the hassle of taking your money.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 8, 2012 20:19:16 GMT -8
Rizzo goes 1-12 in the series. Petco Park turns this guy from Babe Ruth to Pee Wee Herman. I'm sure he will do fine in The Friendly Confines, however, Rizzo's all or nothing batting approach gets eaten alive in PCP.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 9, 2012 11:28:24 GMT -8
Rizzo goes 1-12 in the series. Petco Park turns this guy from Babe Ruth to Pee Wee Herman. I'm sure he will do fine in The Friendly Confines, however, Rizzo's all or nothing batting approach gets eaten alive in PCP. I'm glad Bill didn't want the "hassle" of taking my money. Rizzo came pretty close in that first game. Another millimeter of bat on ball and it goes into the deepest part of left center for a homer. Thanks for saving me a few bucks Bill. As a Padre fan I'm glad that both my big mouth and the Padre curse didn't prove true. Earlier you said he wasn't very good. So his 1-12 was right in line with your earlier statements. Our interaction made every Rizzo at bat yesterday a little nail bitter. Good game. I like going to mid-week afternoon games. Post All-Star Stats.258 .309 .427 .736 Rizzo .294 .330 .529 .859 Alonso Power wise, Alonso's 11 Doubles and 3 Home Runs is much better than Rizzo's ZERO doubles and 5 Home Runs. Rizzo's first 44 ABs this time up were great. He hit .386 .400 .750 1.150. But since that point he has been doing a slow slide toward a below average 1B. Did it take MLB a little while to adjust to the new Rizzo or does Rizzo have a few more super hot streaks in him? Rizzo Stats Since his First 44 ABs.247 .291 .402 .693 (103 PA)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2012 10:41:43 GMT -8
i might watch just to see him hit...good prospects thou It will be interesting. Post All-star game.294 .330 .529 .859 Yonder Alonzo .284 .337 .469 .806 Anthony Rizzo Rizzo started hot but Alonzo has been better since the all-star break even though Alonzo has played a bunch of games at Petco Park and Rizzo gets to play at Wrigley Field.
Speaking of Yonder, He currently has 31 doubles and 6 home runs. According to Weighted OBA the value of 31 doubles is the same as 20 home runs and the value of 6 home runs is the same as 10 doubles. How everyone's opinon of Yonder would change if he had 10 doubles and 20 home runs? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 10, 2012 10:52:27 GMT -8
It will be interesting. Post All-star game.294 .330 .529 .859 Yonder Alonzo .284 .337 .469 .806 Anthony Rizzo Rizzo started hot but Alonzo has been better since the all-star break even though Alonzo has played a bunch of games at Petco Park and Rizzo gets to play at Wrigley Field.
Speaking of Yonder, He currently has 31 doubles and 6 home runs. According to Weighted OBA the value of 31 doubles is the same as 20 home runs and the value of 6 home runs is the same as 10 doubles. How everyone's opinon of Yonder would change if he had 10 doubles and 20 home runs? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT Yonder Alonso. He is the Padres first baseman.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 14, 2012 14:38:04 GMT -8
Post All Star Stats .312 .345 .495 .840 Yonder Alonso .273 .328 .405 .733 Anthony Rizzo Since Rizzo got callup (June 23) .308 .373 .486 .859 Alonso .296 .337 .485 .822 Rizzo
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 27, 2012 8:32:46 GMT -8
Post All Star Stats .312 .345 .495 .840 Yonder Alonso .273 .328 .405 .733 Anthony Rizzo Since Rizzo got callup (June 23) .308 .373 .486 .859 Alonso .296 .337 .485 .822 Rizzo Update: Since Rizzo was called up (June 26).320 .377 .515 .892 Alonso .289 .336 .451 .787 Rizzo Alonso has out performed Rizzo since Rizzo was promoted. Alonso is 28 months older, so Rizzo could be progress faster over the next 5 years. But that assumes Rizzo does develop as expected. Rizzo will probably have a better career but it is not as much a difference as it seemed earlier. Comparisons will be difficult due to differences in playing in Petco Park and Wrigley Field. Career Stats.232 .314 .370 .684 Rizzo .281 .347 .414 .761 Alonso
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 7, 2012 21:57:14 GMT -8
I couldnt care less about Amarista vs. Rizzo. We didnt trade Rizzo for Amarista. We traded Frieri for Amarista. Rizzo has all the makings of being a really good ballplayer. He's still so young, and has been raking after owning minor league pitching. It sickens me that we traded him essentially straight up for Cashner (I dont count that s#!++y OF we got in the deal). Cashner's upside is a 2 or 3 starter. Rizzo might be a perennial All Star if he hits his celing. I think the Latos trade was before the Rizzo trade. Once we got Yonder, Rizzo could go.
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Post by insider on Sept 7, 2012 23:58:57 GMT -8
I couldnt care less about Amarista vs. Rizzo. We didnt trade Rizzo for Amarista. We traded Frieri for Amarista. Rizzo has all the makings of being a really good ballplayer. He's still so young, and has been raking after owning minor league pitching. It sickens me that we traded him essentially straight up for Cashner (I dont count that s#!++y OF we got in the deal). Cashner's upside is a 2 or 3 starter. Rizzo might be a perennial All Star if he hits his celing. Rizzo's most often comparison throughout the minors was Adam Laroche and that is what I see a above average 1B but not a all star. As for Cashner's upside? It is easily a ace but there is no reason to expect him to stay healthy, he has filthy stuff but his medicals are very scary according to Keith Law and pretty much no one can see him staying healthy long term if he is a starter.
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Post by AztecBill on Sept 11, 2012 8:47:12 GMT -8
I couldnt care less about Amarista vs. Rizzo. We didnt trade Rizzo for Amarista. We traded Frieri for Amarista. Rizzo has all the makings of being a really good ballplayer. He's still so young, and has been raking after owning minor league pitching. It sickens me that we traded him essentially straight up for Cashner (I dont count that s#!++y OF we got in the deal). Cashner's upside is a 2 or 3 starter. Rizzo might be a perennial All Star if he hits his celing. Rizzo's most often comparison throughout the minors was Adam Laroche and that is what I see a above average 1B but not a all star. As for Cashner's upside? It is easily a ace but there is no reason to expect him to stay healthy, he has filthy stuff but his medicals are very scary according to Keith Law and pretty much no one can see him staying healthy long term if he is a starter. Rizzo is very young. "Upsides" are not nearly as clear for 23 year old major leaguers. Rizzo could become an all-star type first baseman. Cashner's last start was impressive because he wasn't hitting triple digits. He said later he is more concerned with locating his fastball. That is key to Cashner becoming a good pitcher. There is no reason he can't become a very good starter.
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Post by AztecBill on Sept 17, 2012 15:18:35 GMT -8
Rizzo has been hot. He hit 2 home runs against the Pirates yesterday:
Post All-Star Game .288 .349 .450 .799 Rizzo .289 .357 .438 .795 Alonso
They are pretty even since the All-Star Break.
Since Rizzo was called up .300 .352 .491 .843 .293 .374 .442 .816
Rizzo more power and Alonso less outs.
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Post by nctyaztec on Sept 17, 2012 20:08:43 GMT -8
This was just a bad trade by the Padres no matter how you slice and dice it. The GM pulled the trigger too quick. I was dumbfounded by this trade. Most of his moves were great except this one.
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Post by AztecBill on Sept 18, 2012 8:18:19 GMT -8
This was just a bad trade by the Padres no matter how you slice and dice it. The GM pulled the trigger too quick. I was dumbfounded by this trade. Most of his moves were great except this one. The trade will be hard to judge because of the massive difference between Wrigley Field and Petco Park. Rizzo can be the better player but still be worse for the Padres because he wouldn't hit well in Petco Park. The Padres are trying to get more line drive hitters. I think they felt Rizzo will be more of a fly ball-type power hitter that would suffer in Petco Park, while Alonso is a line drive hitter who will hit better in Petco Park. The unadjusted numbers will never be a good reflection of whether that is a good decision or not.
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Post by AztecBill on Sept 24, 2012 8:21:32 GMT -8
Post All-Star Game .278 .338 .425 .763 Rizzo .291 .360 .439 .799 Alonso +.013 +.022 +.014 +.036 Difference
Updated through 9/27 games. Both had 3 hits yesterday.
Post All-Star Game .279 .343 .431 .774 Rizzo .298 .365 .447 .812 Alonso +.019 +.022 +.016 +.038 Difference
Alonso is increasing his post all star game lead over Rizzo in all the basic stats.
Since Rizzo was call up on June 27 .290 .347 .470 .817 Rizzo .302 .383 .451 .834 Alonso +.012 +.036 -.019 +.017 Difference
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