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Post by aztecx on Dec 30, 2011 11:01:51 GMT -8
When the rumors started that Pelle had choosen UNLV, all the anti Big West/Big East posters immediately said it was because of the Big West. Please stop jumping to this conclusion.
Is it because of the Big West. Who knows.
But folks make it sound like we never lose recruits to unlv or new mexico. Both of these schools have good traditions. Good facilities. Great fan bases. And, they are the only game in town. So they both bring a lot to the table. SDSU will win some recruiting battles with these schools and lose some like we have in the past. But it is absurd to just assume that it is becasue of the Big West.
If we start losing recruits to Wyo, CSU and Nev, then we can get worried.
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Post by therealeman on Dec 30, 2011 11:13:02 GMT -8
I mean, Polee and O'Brien are awesome, but Pelle is a solid get for them (if it goes down) considering his rating.
If Pelle is a Rebel after all, would that be the biggest recruit we've ever lost to them?
You also have to think of the bigger implications. If UNLV lands a recruit like Pelle, out of LA, 4-5 star rating, it could give UNLV the inside track to recruiting in CA in the future.
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Post by 83aztec on Dec 30, 2011 11:39:07 GMT -8
He has not committed so this is still speculation.
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Post by aztecx on Dec 30, 2011 11:43:13 GMT -8
He has not committed so this is still speculation. Yes, but the immediate response by some/many posters was that moving to the Big West was the reason he didn't commit to us. |
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Post by azteccc on Dec 30, 2011 12:02:30 GMT -8
Anyone who thinks a move to the Big West won't hurt our recruiting long term is a kool-aid drinking delusionite.
As for individual recruits, you are right. Who knows? But in general, refer to sentence (one).
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Post by aztecx on Dec 30, 2011 12:21:04 GMT -8
Anyone who thinks a move to the Big West won't hurt our recruiting long term is a kool-aid drinking delusionite. As for individual recruits, you are right. Who knows? But in general, refer to sentence (one). How do you know that for sure. We are currently on a network that people in SD cannot even get. If you don't think that games against Big East teams and games on TV nationally won't help, you are delusional. You are just assuming this is a net loss for Aztec basketball. But you or anyone else cannot know for sure. |
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Post by Cwag on Dec 30, 2011 12:30:31 GMT -8
Anyone who thinks a move to the Big West won't hurt our recruiting long term is a kool-aid drinking delusionite. As for individual recruits, you are right. Who knows? But in general, refer to sentence (one). How do you know that for sure. We are currently on a network that people in SD cannot even get. If you don't think that games against Big East teams and games on TV nationally won't help, you are delusional. You are just assuming this is a net loss for Aztec basketball. But you or anyone else cannot know for sure. 2 games a year against Long Beach State, UCSB, Pacific and Hawaii and one each agasint the other schools in the Big West along with a stellar OCC schedule with enough money to get the big boys into Viejas will not hurt us at all. If we Play UNLV and New Mexico in that OCC schedule even better. |
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Post by AztecTom on Dec 30, 2011 13:02:11 GMT -8
How do you know that for sure. We are currently on a network that people in SD cannot even get. If you don't think that games against Big East teams and games on TV nationally won't help, you are delusional. You are just assuming this is a net loss for Aztec basketball. But you or anyone else cannot know for sure. 2 games a year against Long Beach State, UCSB, Pacific and Hawaii and one each agasint the other schools in the Big West along with a stellar OCC schedule with enough money to get the big boys into Viejas will not hurt us at all. If we Play UNLV and New Mexico in that OCC schedule even better. Totally agree with you cwag. We just have to reverse our current schedule and make the non conference really tough and schedule good schools and we will be fine. Winning the Big West and going to the NCAA tournament will take care of everything else. |
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Post by Montezuma on Dec 30, 2011 13:18:49 GMT -8
Gonzaga gets respect and recruits to go there even though they play in the WCC. Don't get all hung up on $#!+ like that; just win and they will come.
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Post by pokinsky on Dec 30, 2011 13:38:21 GMT -8
2 games a year against Long Beach State, UCSB, Pacific and Hawaii and one each agasint the other schools in the Big West along with a stellar OCC schedule with enough money to get the big boys into Viejas will not hurt us at all. If we Play UNLV and New Mexico in that OCC schedule even better. Totally agree with you cwag. We just have to reverse our current schedule and make the non conference really tough and schedule good schools and we will be fine. Winning the Big West and going to the NCAA tournament will take care of everything else. A lot of things are still in flux: The coaching staff has struggled to add quality OOC teams recently ... so why do you think opposing teams will suddenly be lining up to play us? Also, I believe the "limited" Big West schedule is still a work in progress, and it was suggested that it will only be in affect for 1 year and then go back to an RPI killer. A lot of people are also suggesting that every game will be nationally televised now? But it's possible that only 1-2 additional games, at best, are televised and tip at around 11:00 PM Eastern time? (At least west coast recruits can watch, even if the selection committee is sleeping) Although your last sentence ... Winning the Big West and going to the NCAA tournament will take care of everything else, remains true. If we simply keep winning games (especially NCAA games) recruits, broadcasters and sponsors will follow. Although we WILL lose a few recruits simply because of the move (possibly Shepard and Pelle) ... and that's why I also prefer pioneering recruits like January and Johnson ... guys who are not afraid of the change, who trust the program will be successful ... and also want to be the reason that we remain successful. |
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Post by yamaneko on Dec 30, 2011 13:44:08 GMT -8
i thought pelle considered himself a possible one and done guy? if so, then what would the big west have to do with it since next year were still in the MWC?
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Post by Cwag on Dec 30, 2011 13:46:21 GMT -8
More Money!
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Post by azteclegacy on Dec 30, 2011 14:30:30 GMT -8
i thought pelle considered himself a possible one and done guy? if so, then what would the big west have to do with it since next year were still in the MWC? People consistently overlook this. |
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Post by Azthetic on Dec 30, 2011 14:58:46 GMT -8
Getting the right recruits who buy into our "team-first/play lock-down d/share the ball/never give up/always play hard" philosophy is vital to our success.
I trust that we will continue to get the right players with Fisher, Bland, etc in charge, if we are a Top 25 program, play some big time games on ESPN, make runs in the NCAA tourney, and put guys in the NBA.
UNLV will get some guys and we will get some guys.
There are only so many minutes in a game, only five guys can be on the court for your team at a time, and they only play with one ball.
Guys who want to get to the NBA have to decide when coming out of h.s. what their best opportunity is to showcase their talents and improve their skills. Choose wisely or find the bench and burn a year transferring to the right spot.
We have a great opportunity for some big kids to come in and help make an impact right away because we will need bigs again next season. I don't think UNLV has the same opportunity.
We also have a great opportunity for a special, special player to come in and get some time. If we don't get Shepard, then we will be fine. Maybe it's a developing January. Or Hamilton is right there the following year.
Other than that, we are loaded for the next few years with current players, incoming recruits and transfers that are highly skilled from the 1 through the 4.
It's great to have UNLV as a rival though. Can't wait to play them soon and show the recruits who still owns the court.
We are really just getting started. It's going to get very interesting.
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Post by AztecTom on Dec 30, 2011 15:13:33 GMT -8
Getting the right recruits who buy into our "team-first/play lock-down d/share the ball/never give up/always play hard" philosophy is vital to our success. I trust that we will continue to get the right players with Fisher, Bland, etc in charge, if we are a Top 25 program, play some big time games on ESPN, make runs in the NCAA tourney, and put guys in the NBA. UNLV will get some guys and we will get some guys. There are only so many minutes in a game, only five guys can be on the court for your team at a time, and they only play with one ball. Guys who want to get to the NBA have to decide when coming out of h.s. what their best opportunity is to showcase their talents and improve their skills. Choose wisely or find the bench and burn a year transferring to the right spot. We have a great opportunity for some big kids to come in and help make an impact right away because we will need bigs again next season. I don't think UNLV has the same opportunity. We also have a great opportunity for a special, special player to come in and get some time. If we don't get Shepard, then we will be fine. Maybe it's a developing January. Or Hamilton is right there the following year. Other than that, we are loaded for the next few years with current players, incoming recruits and transfers that are highly skilled from the 1 through the 4. It's great to have UNLV as a rival though. Can't wait to play them soon and show the recruits who still owns the court. We are really just getting started. It's going to get very interesting. Pretty spot on, on everything. |
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Post by taraztec on Dec 30, 2011 16:07:38 GMT -8
If the Big East basketball games materialize with high-profile teams, a top recruit (intending to come out early) looking for national exposure may take notice. Alas, if we are playing against the lower caliber teams in that conference, they may also take notice.
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Post by 83aztec on Dec 30, 2011 16:09:31 GMT -8
He has not committed so this is still speculation. Yes, but the immediate response by some/many posters was that moving to the Big West was the reason he didn't commit to us. Most of those people were UNLV and NM possers |
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Post by therealeman on Dec 30, 2011 16:23:58 GMT -8
If the Big East basketball games materialize with high-profile teams, a top recruit (intending to come out early) looking for national exposure may take notice. Alas, if we are playing against the lower caliber teams in that conference, they may also take notice. Yup. 2013 Big East match-ups at Viejas are already sold out... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2011 16:46:46 GMT -8
BIG EAST---------BIG WEST----------It's all about Big right now----------How about Basketball getting a BIG JOHNSON right now?
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Post by podpeople on Dec 30, 2011 16:48:15 GMT -8
BIG EAST---------BIG WEST----------It's all about Big right now----------How about Basketball getting a BIG JOHNSON right now? ahem... No pun intended? |
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