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Post by jcljorgenson on Sept 26, 2011 12:56:04 GMT -8
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Post by azteken on Sept 26, 2011 15:34:18 GMT -8
This is a great schedule, and all should include: 1 FCS max 1 BCS, but 2 if one is a conference bottom-feeder, such as WSU, and only on a home-and-home basis Balance non-AQ FBS
Also, UCLA has always been home-and-home, as have (lately) both Zonie schools. The only Pac-8/10/12 school that has never played here is Washington.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 26, 2011 18:15:15 GMT -8
2002: Fresno St, Colorado, Arizona St, Idaho, UCLA = 0-5 going in to conference play 2000: Arizona State, Illinois, Arizona, Oregon State = 0-4 going in to conference play (2 hm/2rd) Exactly. I don't mind playing at Ann Arbor, South Bend, Tempe, or Columbus. What I mind is not having those schools come here to play as well. I say fight hard for a one-and-one and settle, if absolutely necessary, for a one-here-two-there. If that doesn't work, say ' thank you very much', walk out the door and keep making phone calls. The WSU deal was one-and-one. Fine. The Cincy deal was the same, but we copped out of that for a big pay day. We must get over the mindset that we are perpetually a small-fry who must pack his bags in order to keep the program barely alive. And that's what it will always be if we don't insist that we play some of these big name schools here. Let's face it, fans, nobody cares if Michigan or Ohio State, or some of the SEC schools play an absolutely pathetic non-conference schedule. All people care about is the W/L record. Even if we play in a less prestigious league, racking up 9-3, 10-2, or 11-1 records is going to get people's attention. You get there by winning at least 4 or 5 in conference (not too terribly tough if we keep improving) and sweep 4 out-of-conference games. Example: one FCS school, a San Jose State, a North Texas State, and one and only one road game. For that road game, perhaps an Iowa State or an Indiana, or a Connecticut. AzWm
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 26, 2011 18:20:59 GMT -8
"And if it's a 2-1, demand that we get 1.5 million each time we darken their door and offer than a half a mil to come here." LOL Jim Sterk: Hi there Dave. My secretary told me something about maybe scheduling a game? David Brandon: Yeah. We were thinking of an OOC game and we can cover about a mil. Sterk: Are you sure you can't do better? We were thinking a 2 for 1 with more favorable financial terms. Brandon: Well, it's really kind of a take it or leave it. I have to make calls to Nevada, Rice, and Hawaii. They're all on board and ready to go on this deal but I wanted to give you first crack. Sterk: Based on the conversations with our really smart fans, I'm gonna have to demand a 2 for 1 with 1.5 mil each time and we'll give you 500k on the retur....... (click) Sterk: Hello? Dave? If they hang up, fine. Make another call. I am suggesting that SDSU insist on at least one home game for any deal. And stop these one time deals that are always on the other guys' field. We BADLY need a chance to beat a name school here at the Q. If they won't buy that, then insist on an obscene amount of money. A million dollars was big bucks a few years ago. Today, not so much. $1.75 million is within the budget of schools that fill 100,000 seat stadiums every Saturday. AzWm
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Post by fantaztec on Sept 26, 2011 18:57:53 GMT -8
THEY WON'T COME HERE.
WE ARE SMALL TIME and WE NEED THE MONEY.
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Post by tonatiuh on Sept 26, 2011 19:04:02 GMT -8
When the hell did WA ever play in Qualcomm? Most of the pacfudge schools like USuC & ucla refuse to play SDSU in SD. Heck Ojai-o State bought out their roadie to SDSU and Tollner went to the plumbers butt of America. "We" have become road fodder for a paycheck as far as the BC$ goes. We never have played WA at the Q. We always go up there to play them just like we will next season which I don't like. But, AztecWilliam, we make good money from the BSC schools when we play at their home. Just like fishtec said. We have to start beating them to get any more respect, and it will take some time. Our schedule is fine as it is. You don't like TCU, or Boise St.? They are very good teams, and we get both here this season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2011 19:16:44 GMT -8
" Re: It's time for a new scheduling philosophy."
No...no it's not
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 26, 2011 19:50:09 GMT -8
When the hell did WA ever play in Qualcomm? Most of the pacfudge schools like USuC & ucla refuse to play SDSU in SD. Heck Ojai-o State bought out their roadie to SDSU and Tollner went to the plumbers butt of America. "We" have become road fodder for a paycheck as far as the BC$ goes. We never have played WA at the Q. We always go up there to play them just like we will next season which I don't like. But, AztecWilliam, we make good money from the BSC schools when we play at their home. Just like fishtec said. We have to start beating them to get any more respect, and it will take some time. Our schedule is fine as it is. You don't like TCU, or Boise St.? They are very good teams, and we get both here this season. We need to beat a name BCS school more than we need money, and we are most likely going to do that HERE, not on the road! Remember when all 19 refs (or however may there were) missed that obvious block in the back at Mizzou last year? That stupidity cost us a much-needed victory on the road against a better than average BCS school. Think maybe at least one ref would have kept his eyes open had the game been played in the Q? AzWm
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Post by smoothcat on Sept 26, 2011 19:57:33 GMT -8
I like the idea of picking off some of the bottom feeders from BCS Conferences (Wash St, maybe teams like Indiana, Kentucky, Vanderbuilt, etc.) to show we can beat teams from the big bad SEC or Pac 12.
But let's not get all crazy and start scheduling Alabama or Oregon.
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Post by smoothcat on Sept 26, 2011 19:58:47 GMT -8
We never have played WA at the Q. We always go up there to play them just like we will next season which I don't like. But, AztecWilliam, we make good money from the BSC schools when we play at their home. Just like fishtec said. We have to start beating them to get any more respect, and it will take some time. Our schedule is fine as it is. You don't like TCU, or Boise St.? They are very good teams, and we get both here this season. We need to beat a name BCS school more than we need money, and we are most likely going to do that HERE, not on the road! Remember when all 19 refs (or however may there were) missed that obvious block in the back at Mizzou last year? That stupidity cost us a much-needed victory on the road against a better than average BCS school. Think maybe at least one ref would have kept his eyes open had the game been played in the Q? AzWm That play was so brutal....it harkens back to all the disappointments over the years, Trakas, blowing the 28 pt lead in the 4th qtr to BYU, USC tie during the Faulk era (Trakas!) etc.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 26, 2011 20:14:28 GMT -8
" Re: It's time for a new scheduling philosophy." No...no it's not Yes, we do. We need an AD who tells other schools, "No offense, but SDSU considers itself your equal. Maybe not in strength of program just yet, but there are some bottom feeders in your own conference that are not your equal in that sense, and you still trade home games with them. If you see it differently, fine, no offense taken. Our fans have a right to see the best teams play in San Diego. If that isn't going to be you, Big-Time State University, it will be somebody else."Let them travel two or three time zones to play the Aztecs. If we do not insist on reciprocity, we will always be, and be seen as, small time. All I am asking is that we insist on either home-and-home or one-here-two-there. If that means will can't make a deal with the likes of Michigan or Ohio State right away, so be it. I would think that Kansas St., Indiana, or Connecticut might be more willing. I think that UCLA and or USC might well go for a series, perhaps one-here-two there. Or perhaps Cal, Stanford, ASU, or Ariz. In fact, it would be great to schedule one of those teams most years. But only on a reciprocal basis. And I've always thought that a long term deal with Navy would be in both schools best interest. AzWm
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Sept 26, 2011 21:01:51 GMT -8
If they hang up, fine. Make another call. I am suggesting that SDSU insist on at least one home game for any deal. And stop these one time deals that are always on the other guys' field. We BADLY need a chance to beat a name school here at the Q. If they won't buy that, then insist on an obscene amount of money. A million dollars was big bucks a few years ago. Today, not so much. $1.75 million is within the budget of schools that fill 100,000 seat stadiums every Saturday. AzWm I agree with you to the point that SDSU could maybe negotiate similar deals for a modest amount of more money. But if you think that SDSU can currently negotiate these deals from a position where they can dictate terms, you are sorrily mistaken. I wish it wasn't the case but that's the reality that SDSU is dealing with. Money talks and SDSU has the voice of a smurf.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Sept 27, 2011 4:40:20 GMT -8
JMO, but going up to WA and potentially getting beat by Coach Suck is bad for SDSU's WC recruiting image and helps WA drag more SD kids up to Fungus Flats. Coach Suckisian has a big enough ego and estimation of himself we don't need to add to it! JMO like I said.
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Sept 27, 2011 6:58:57 GMT -8
Ore'sgone State is STRUGGLING with their OOC HOME schedule...Hornets stung the beavers where it counted!
Is this a game the bcs tosses out before it runs its bogus bcs strungth of schedule calculations?
HAM
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Post by myk13 on Sept 27, 2011 7:51:25 GMT -8
first off...A) how do you know we aren't already trying to do this but failing? and B) yes, it takes 1.5 mill for us to go there. But do you honestly think it will take 1.5 to bring say a Michigan or Ohio State back down here!? It will take a hell of a lot more money than 1.5 for them to come here. They make nearly 6-7 times that on ticket sales alone for home games.
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Post by billycarl on Sept 27, 2011 7:55:41 GMT -8
This year sched is good. Two BCS school and two decent teams.
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Post by AztecSports95 on Sept 27, 2011 7:57:03 GMT -8
Bottom line: We don't book those away games/pay days, we don't have a football/athletics program. It's simple, really.
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Post by k5james on Sept 27, 2011 7:59:28 GMT -8
If they hang up, fine. Make another call. I am suggesting that SDSU insist on at least one home game for any deal. And stop these one time deals that are always on the other guys' field. We BADLY need a chance to beat a name school here at the Q. If they won't buy that, then insist on an obscene amount of money. A million dollars was big bucks a few years ago. Today, not so much. $1.75 million is within the budget of schools that fill 100,000 seat stadiums every Saturday. AzWm You are clueless as to the realities of SDSU's place in the college football landscape.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 27, 2011 8:11:58 GMT -8
If they hang up, fine. Make another call. I am suggesting that SDSU insist on at least one home game for any deal. And stop these one time deals that are always on the other guys' field. We BADLY need a chance to beat a name school here at the Q. If they won't buy that, then insist on an obscene amount of money. A million dollars was big bucks a few years ago. Today, not so much. $1.75 million is within the budget of schools that fill 100,000 seat stadiums every Saturday. AzWm You are clueless as to the realities of SDSU's place in the college football landscape. Not really. Look, we have had Oklahoma, UCLA, USC, Wisconsin, Arizona, Miami of Florida, and Florida State play here. Now it appears that we can't get teams like that to come here any more. I think we should try harder, even if it's on a one-here-two there basis. Do you think Wyoming paid Nebraska 5 or 6 million dollars to play in Laramie last Saturday? I doubt it. What we need are some home-and-homes with schools such as Indiana or Iowa State. The WSU deal is just what I have been talking about. Let's do some more of those. AzWm
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Post by k5james on Sept 27, 2011 8:22:34 GMT -8
Not really. Look, we have had Oklahoma, UCLA, USC, Wisconsin, Arizona, Miami of Florida, and Florida State play here. Now it appears that we can't get teams like that to come here any more. I think we should try harder, even if it's on a one-here-two there basis. Again, you are clueless as to SDSU's place in the landscape of college football. Michigan's AD came out a few months ago and said he doesn't see Michigan playing anymore road OOC games other than Notre Dame as long as he's there. That's how most of the big time schools are scheduling right now. No, they signed a 2-1 and it's an easy road trip for Nebraska fans. That's why they signed the deal. We have home and homes with Oregon State and Arizona State in the future. You are just bitching for bitching's sake.
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