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Post by bearfoot on Sept 24, 2011 18:32:38 GMT -8
www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/24/aztecs-cant-contain-robinson-loss-michigan/" Long was concerned that Hoke and other former SDSU coaches on the Michigan coaching staff would know SDSU’s signals on defense after spending two years at SDSU in 2009-10. To prevent them from getting this advantage, the Aztecs changed to a signal system of flashing pictures to the players from the sidelines.
Were the players thrown off by this change?
Long wouldn’t allow them to say if they were. He forbade interviews with players after the game “because I said so.”
“Maybe that was part of the problem,” Long said of the new signals." Rocky implies all week that it is just another game, and it makes no difference that U of M had 6 coaches who coached here last year. Then he goes out a totally changes the method of delivering signs to the team, and we wonder why they are so out of sync. Finally, he tops it all off by forbidding the press to talk to his players, "BECAUSE HE SAID SO!" All you all have buried the lead of this story. Rocky Long out coached himself and didn't want his players to tell the press the were confused. I am an Aztec, I held BB tickets for over 30 years and football for 12, and I am embarrassed by my coach. I certainly hope AD Sterk has a chat with the coach on the trip home. For an athletic program whose fans are constantly hollering for more press, this really stinks.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 24, 2011 18:41:15 GMT -8
Hmm, all week Rocky said that Michigan had the advantage. he even mentioned that they knew his hand signals.
If he wanted to bury the lead, he would have not said, “Maybe that was part of the problem,” Long said of the new signals."
That does sound like a man hiding anything. But alas, if you don't like Rocky or you a have a stroker for the UT, I can see how you would want to believe that line.
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 24, 2011 18:48:36 GMT -8
Hmm, all week Rocky said that Michigan had the advantage. he even mentioned that they knew his hand signals. If he wanted to bury the lead, he would have not said, “Maybe that was part of the problem,” Long said of the new signals." That does sound like a man hiding anything. But alas, if you don't like Rocky or you a have a stroker for the UT, I can see how you would want to believe that line. First, the lead was buried by the homer Aztec fans, not Rocky. I like Coach Long, I just think he may have out coached himself by making such dramatic changes for this game. I must have been thinking about changing them for a while, and he's had 3 games to try them out, but didn't. I think part of blocking the press was that he didn't want his players to have to answer if they were confused. Perhaps the stroker is yours for your posts. |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 24, 2011 18:54:01 GMT -8
Hmm, all week Rocky said that Michigan had the advantage. he even mentioned that they knew his hand signals. If he wanted to bury the lead, he would have not said, “Maybe that was part of the problem,” Long said of the new signals." That does sound like a man hiding anything. But alas, if you don't like Rocky or you a have a stroker for the UT, I can see how you would want to believe that line. First, the lead was buried by the homer Aztec fans, not Rocky. I like Coach Long, I just think he may have out coached himself by making such dramatic changes for this game. I must have been thinking about changing them for a while, and he's had 3 games to try them out, but didn't. I think part of blocking the press was that he didn't want his players to have to answer if they were confused. Perhaps the stroker is yours for your posts. The defense didn't lose the game for us. They manhandled us up front, and as we all know, our star players didn't come thru. That's what did us in. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 24, 2011 18:57:22 GMT -8
Hmm, all week Rocky said that Michigan had the advantage. he even mentioned that they knew his hand signals. If he wanted to bury the lead, he would have not said, “Maybe that was part of the problem,” Long said of the new signals." That does sound like a man hiding anything. But alas, if you don't like Rocky or you a have a stroker for the UT, I can see how you would want to believe that line. First, the lead was buried by the homer Aztec fans, not Rocky. I like Coach Long, I just think he may have out coached himself by making such dramatic changes for this game. I must have been thinking about changing them for a while, and he's had 3 games to try them out, but didn't. I think part of blocking the press was that he didn't want his players to have to answer if they were confused. Perhaps the stroker is yours for your posts. No, Rocky was asked if the change was a factor and he answered. If we wanted to silence the troops, then saying it may have been part of the problem was counter to that strategy. Second, the game was lost on the offensive side of the ball. The defense, played ok. The offense stunk it up and it wasn't because of the signs vs. hand signals. He may very well have out coached himself and that has merit, changing your system like that has to be hard. But the angle that Rocky was scared of the kids saying they were confused is simply out there. So Professor, please don't jump to conclusions. |
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 24, 2011 19:01:18 GMT -8
We're a fairly average team that played a bad game. I think that's probably the fairest analysis.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 24, 2011 19:30:09 GMT -8
We're a fairly average team that played a bad game. I think that's probably the fairest analysis. I disagree. I think we're a very good team, that played a bad game. Saying "we're fairly average" is a bit harsh. |
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Post by azzfan on Sept 24, 2011 19:41:09 GMT -8
Nonsense.
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 24, 2011 19:57:45 GMT -8
First, the lead was buried by the homer Aztec fans, not Rocky. I like Coach Long, I just think he may have out coached himself by making such dramatic changes for this game. I must have been thinking about changing them for a while, and he's had 3 games to try them out, but didn't. I think part of blocking the press was that he didn't want his players to have to answer if they were confused. Perhaps the stroker is yours for your posts. No, Rocky was asked if the change was a factor and he answered. If we wanted to silence the troops, then saying it may have been part of the problem was counter to that strategy. Second, the game was lost on the offensive side of the ball. The defense, played ok. The offense stunk it up and it wasn't because of the signs vs. hand signals. He may very well have out coached himself and that has merit, changing your system like that has to be hard. But the angle that Rocky was scared of the kids saying they were confused is simply out there. So Professor, please don't jump to conclusions. 14 - 0 at the end of the 1st quarter. Hmm. It took a while for the D to adjust to the new system. He admitted that. |
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 24, 2011 20:00:01 GMT -8
We're a fairly average team that played a bad game. I think that's probably the fairest analysis. Pretty close, but maybe a bit better than fairly average. And, yes they played poorly and they better play better if they want to beat AFA & TCU. Both winnable games. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 24, 2011 20:01:58 GMT -8
No, Rocky was asked if the change was a factor and he answered. If we wanted to silence the troops, then saying it may have been part of the problem was counter to that strategy. Second, the game was lost on the offensive side of the ball. The defense, played ok. The offense stunk it up and it wasn't because of the signs vs. hand signals. He may very well have out coached himself and that has merit, changing your system like that has to be hard. But the angle that Rocky was scared of the kids saying they were confused is simply out there. So Professor, please don't jump to conclusions. 14 - 0 at the end of the 1st quarter. Hmm. It took a while for the D to adjust to the new system. He admitted that. Hmm, were the signals a problem against WSU, because State gave a TD on the first play. Professor, I think it is fair to question a wholesale change like what we saw for signals for the defense. But you are going a bit far to say that Rocky is trying to keep the kids from admitting as much since Rocky has already said it may have played a factor. |
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 24, 2011 20:08:34 GMT -8
14 - 0 at the end of the 1st quarter. Hmm. It took a while for the D to adjust to the new system. He admitted that. Hmm, were the signals a problem against WSU, because State gave a TD on the first play. Professor, I think it is fair to question a wholesale change like what we saw for signals for the defense. But you are going a bit far to say that Rocky is trying to keep the kids from admitting as much since Rocky has already said it may have played a factor. He lets the press chat with the players, this thread isn't here. This is why this BS stuff by so many coaches is counterproductive. "This is big time college football not inter-murals!" One of the few things Hawkins got right at U of Colorado. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 9:53:25 GMT -8
This is Rocky Long its the way he is. Claude was similar except it was with administration not the papers. Ask any New Mexico fan Rocky Long.you take the good with the bad. When you win your a tough coach when you lose everyone piles on.
SDSU is the fourth best team in them MWC and Michigan is the eighth seventh or so best team in the Big Ten,result 28-7 You want to win the MWC hire Mike Leech. Even money he is New Mexico's coach next year.,
i understand the media created this environment for a story it was part of the problem it was not just a game but the Hoke game. Who by the way is not the second coming Bear Bryant.
He teaches fundamentals toughness hard work.
The 3-3-5 is mincemeat against power running teams unless it is full of Brian Uhrlackers.
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Post by Old School on Sept 25, 2011 10:00:41 GMT -8
The 3-3-5 is mincemeat against power running teams unless it is full of Brian Uhrlackers. I think Al Borges knew that too, proof was in the pudding. Also, we cannot handle a speedy QB behind a strong O-line, it's like catching a grasshopper in freeway traffic full of trucks. Our defense would set itself up for the pass, spread out then would have trouble recovering if the offense would go to a screen, QB run or HB option. Oldie Out |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 25, 2011 10:15:29 GMT -8
This is Rocky Long its the way he is. Claude was similar except it was with administration not the papers. Ask any New Mexico fan Rocky Long.you take the good with the bad. When you win your a tough coach when you lose everyone piles on. SDSU is the fourth best team in them MWC and Michigan is the eighth seventh or so best team in the Big Ten,result 28-7 You want to win the MWC hire Mike Leech. Even money he is New Mexico's coach next year., i understand the media created this environment for a story it was part of the problem it was not just a game but the Hoke game. Who by the way is not the second coming Bear Bryant. He teaches fundamentals toughness hard work. The 3-3-5 is mincemeat against power running teams unless it is full of Brian Uhrlackers. TCU doesn't have a bunch of Urlachers, and beat Wisco. It all comes down to execution. |
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Post by 01aztecgrad on Sept 25, 2011 10:27:36 GMT -8
This is Rocky Long its the way he is. Claude was similar except it was with administration not the papers. Ask any New Mexico fan Rocky Long.you take the good with the bad. When you win your a tough coach when you lose everyone piles on. SDSU is the fourth best team in them MWC and Michigan is the eighth seventh or so best team in the Big Ten,result 28-7 You want to win the MWC hire Mike Leech. Even money he is New Mexico's coach next year., i understand the media created this environment for a story it was part of the problem it was not just a game but the Hoke game. Who by the way is not the second coming Bear Bryant. He teaches fundamentals toughness hard work. The 3-3-5 is mincemeat against power running teams unless it is full of Brian Uhrlackers. TCU doesn't have a bunch of Urlachers, and beat Wisco. It all comes down to execution. TCU doesn't run the 3-3-5. They run a 4-2-5 with 4 Linemen in the 260-290 range. I'm sure the 3-3-5 can be successful against bigger teams, but I don't see how it can be done with 250 pound d-linemen. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 10:33:33 GMT -8
www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/24/aztecs-cant-contain-robinson-loss-michigan/" Long was concerned that Hoke and other former SDSU coaches on the Michigan coaching staff would know SDSU’s signals on defense after spending two years at SDSU in 2009-10. To prevent them from getting this advantage, the Aztecs changed to a signal system of flashing pictures to the players from the sidelines.
Were the players thrown off by this change?
Long wouldn’t allow them to say if they were. He forbade interviews with players after the game “because I said so.”
“Maybe that was part of the problem,” Long said of the new signals." Rocky implies all week that it is just another game, and it makes no difference that U of M had 6 coaches who coached here last year. Then he goes out a totally changes the method of delivering signs to the team, and we wonder why they are so out of sync. Finally, he tops it all off by forbidding the press to talk to his players, "BECAUSE HE SAID SO!" All you all have buried the lead of this story. Rocky Long out coached himself and didn't want his players to tell the press the were confused. I am an Aztec, I held BB tickets for over 30 years and football for 12, and I am embarrassed by my coach. I certainly hope AD Sterk has a chat with the coach on the trip home. For an athletic program whose fans are constantly hollering for more press, this really stinks. The new picture-signal system might have been a problem---Rocky said it might have been a problem. So what's your problem? Rocky didn't want the press messing with his players after a disapointing experience---so got a problem with that? Rocky is man enough to not have any fears about what the players might have said.......I am embarrassed by your remarks. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 11:15:46 GMT -8
www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/24/aztecs-cant-contain-robinson-loss-michigan/" Long was concerned that Hoke and other former SDSU coaches on the Michigan coaching staff would know SDSU’s signals on defense after spending two years at SDSU in 2009-10. To prevent them from getting this advantage, the Aztecs changed to a signal system of flashing pictures to the players from the sidelines.
Were the players thrown off by this change?
Long wouldn’t allow them to say if they were. He forbade interviews with players after the game “because I said so.”
“Maybe that was part of the problem,” Long said of the new signals." Rocky implies all week that it is just another game, and it makes no difference that U of M had 6 coaches who coached here last year. Then he goes out a totally changes the method of delivering signs to the team, and we wonder why they are so out of sync. Finally, he tops it all off by forbidding the press to talk to his players, "BECAUSE HE SAID SO!" All you all have buried the lead of this story. Rocky Long out coached himself and didn't want his players to tell the press the were confused. I am an Aztec, I held BB tickets for over 30 years and football for 12, and I am embarrassed by my coach. I certainly hope AD Sterk has a chat with the coach on the trip home. For an athletic program whose fans are constantly hollering for more press, this really stinks. Seriously? You think that Long didn't let the media speak to the players because he was afraid they would say they were confused by the new signal system? Yeah, I can see Burris saying " we would have done much better on D but Coach Long really screwed us by using those dumb signs with Hoke's picture on it. If we had had our normal system we would have crushed them." It seems to me Long said in one of the articles something to the effect of 'we didn't play well in the first half so clearly I did a bad job of coaching'. he also said his new system may have been part of the problem. How much more of an admission do you need?? Seems clear to me he didn't want the kids to speak to the press because he was trying to protect them. Good idea or bad idea, he's the coach, so it's his prerogative. I seem to remember Hoke doing similar things last year and the press was pissed at that too. It will all be fine. If the Aztecs continue to win the press will love them and Coach Long as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 11:25:19 GMT -8
Agree. It had to be because the players were devastated by the loss and the very poor play. I'd imagine rl really couldn't give a $#!+ what is written about him.
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Post by aztecx on Sept 25, 2011 11:34:01 GMT -8
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