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Post by AztecPhil on Feb 1, 2011 12:41:45 GMT -8
Lately, with our competing with USC for a great football recruit, the ethics employed by USC have been brought into question. Yet, at the same time, we may sign more players than we have scholarships for, too. I was wondering what every body else thinks about over recruiting, or any other recruiting issues. Here's a little quip by the President of the University of Florida on the over recruiting issue. eye-on-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26895818/27334481 |
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Post by AztecPhil on Feb 1, 2011 12:53:05 GMT -8
And now, watching ESPNU's recruiting break down, other recruiting questions to consider.
Should the use of female hosts be allowed? Or should they be be hosted by members of the team they are going to play for?
Should coaches and programs turn a blind eye to providing 17 & 18 year olds with alcohol and drugs?
Naturally, in light of the Cam Newton news this last season, what about the offering o financial rewards to players or their families?
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Post by aztecbruce on Feb 1, 2011 15:35:46 GMT -8
Lately, with our competing with USC for a great football recruit, the ethics employed by USC have been brought into question. Yet, at the same time, we may sign more players than we have scholarships for, too. I was wondering what every body else thinks about over recruiting, or any other recruiting issues. Here's a little quip by the President of the University of Florida on the over recruiting issue. eye-on-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26895818/27334481FWIW - there aren't many ethics in recruiting. Coaches are judged by how successful their classes are as judged by Rivals and other publications. Two things that come to mind that bother me. Say when a HC leaves (Hoke) and he recruits any of the committed to SDSU players, then I'd have a problem. That just isn't right. I'm not saying he's done that but in some cases former coaches poach their former schools Also, whoever our new OL coach is a secret because his old school didn't want an announcement until after signing day. How ethical is that for that school to bs their recruits? How would you like to be an OL recruit at that school expecting your coach to at least be there for 1 year? That just ain't right. |
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Post by dshawfan on Feb 1, 2011 16:27:07 GMT -8
Lately, with our competing with USC for a great football recruit, the ethics employed by USC have been brought into question. Yet, at the same time, we may sign more players than we have scholarships for, too. I was wondering what every body else thinks about over recruiting, or any other recruiting issues. Here's a little quip by the President of the University of Florida on the over recruiting issue. eye-on-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26895818/27334481Over recruiting is a tough one. Your job is to win and if you don't win your butt is gone. With this in mind, do you take a chance on a kid that would help you win, but he/she do not have their grades/scores in line on LOI day. If they get things worked out by June, then you've got one that helps you in your program. If not, then you can take that 24th kid or whatever that you recruited. Of course if they do get their grades/scores squared away, what do you tell player #24? Did you address this with player #24 and his parent(s) during recruiting? It's a very thorny issue. Do you take a chance on an Ezell Ruffin or pass on him as so many, so called, big time schools did? |
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Post by AztecPhil on Feb 1, 2011 18:10:48 GMT -8
Lately, with our competing with USC for a great football recruit, the ethics employed by USC have been brought into question. Yet, at the same time, we may sign more players than we have scholarships for, too. I was wondering what every body else thinks about over recruiting, or any other recruiting issues. Here's a little quip by the President of the University of Florida on the over recruiting issue. eye-on-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26895818/27334481FWIW - there aren't many ethics in recruiting. Coaches are judged by how successful their classes are as judged by Rivals and other publications. Two things that come to mind that bother me. Say when a HC leaves (Hoke) and he recruits any of the committed to SDSU players, then I'd have a problem. That just isn't right. I'm not saying he's done that but in some cases former coaches poach their former schools Also, whoever our new OL coach is a secret because his old school didn't want an announcement until after signing day. How ethical is that for that school to bs their recruits? How would you like to be an OL recruit at that school expecting your coach to at least be there for 1 year? That just ain't right. Two additional points or good questions. I realize the NCAA can not create rules to govern all of these behaviors, yet at the same time they keep advocating the student athlete should be responsible for his/her actions but give the coaches a free ride on actions that may not be fair or honest with the students learning from them. |
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Post by AztecPhil on Feb 1, 2011 18:19:43 GMT -8
Lately, with our competing with USC for a great football recruit, the ethics employed by USC have been brought into question. Yet, at the same time, we may sign more players than we have scholarships for, too. I was wondering what every body else thinks about over recruiting, or any other recruiting issues. Here's a little quip by the President of the University of Florida on the over recruiting issue. eye-on-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26895818/27334481Over recruiting is a tough one. Your job is to win and if you don't win your butt is gone. With this in mind, do you take a chance on a kid that would help you win, but he/she do not have their grades/scores in line on LOI day. If they get things worked out by June, then you've got one that helps you in your program. If not, then you can take that 24th kid or whatever that you recruited. Of course if they do get their grades/scores squared away, what do you tell player #24? Did you address this with player #24 and his parent(s) during recruiting? It's a very thorny issue. Do you take a chance on an Ezell Ruffin or pass on him as so many, so called, big time schools did? It goes back to the saying, "It's hard to cheat successfully when everybody else is willing to win at any cost."  Somewhere a line should be drawn that limits the number of over-recruitments and/or freeing any player from his commitment, immediately if told there is not an immediate scholarship available. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Feb 2, 2011 5:49:41 GMT -8
"Recruiting Ethics"
What are those??
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Post by buckeye15 on Feb 2, 2011 17:32:57 GMT -8
Oversigning is a MAJOR problem in college football, with the SEC being the main culprit. USC really didn't do it under Carroll, but it appears that Kiffin must be taking a page out of what he learned at Tennessee?
You can pretty much trace the SEC's "dominance" the past 5 years to over signing. Alabama, LSU and Auburn are 3 of the biggest offenders. To be fair Florida really didn't, but then again their Florida with that huge in state talent pool and a coach in Urban Meyer who imo may have been the best football mind in the business (not to mention how he worked himself to death).
The Big Ten has done the right thing by not allowing oversigning, the results on the field of course can suffer from this. Hell when we played Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl, with all the oversigning they had signed 30 more people then we had in this past 4 year period..they had over an entire recruiting class of guys to filter through. No one with any knowledge of the game can look at something like that and not see what a huge advantage it is. Obviously it's morally wrong to exploit kids like this as well.
Of course SDSU feels the negative effects of it, if schools like USC are recruiting are bringing in more kids, then there are less quality players for you guys to bring in.
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